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[Carlo210]

Nope, it's male. Most 'hd displays' have the female end on them. I think they should still offer an official MS female to female convertor because the vga cables are aimed towards "letting people play on their hd monitors". Crt monitors usually don't have the female end on them, but a male wire connected to the guts of the monitor.
Also, VGA female-to-female adapters aren't the easiest things to find (they aren't  at bestbuy, futureshop, walmmart, etc), they are only at some smaller second-hand pc shops (from my experience).

This post has been edited by Carlo210: Oct 26 2005, 09:57 PM

[Deftech]

[twistedsymphony]

[Xeriak]

QUOTE(wassup0320 @ Oct 26 2005, 06:11 PM)

Should work fine becuase current xbox titles that are capable of 720p work fine on a VGA monitor, but as far as I know, 720p is natively in a 16:9 aspect ratio, so it would be squashed on your 4:3 monitor...unless you have some way of having it display in a letter box format.

i would imagine that m$ would include some setting changes in the Xbox 360 dashboard for when you use the VGA cable.. Like say you want 720p, and the xbox 360 detects a CRT monitor.. then it'd automatically letterbox the display for you..

Or am i wrong?? Wishful thinking??

[twistedsymphony]

QUOTE(Xeriak @ Oct 26 2005, 11:47 PM)

i would imagine that m$ would include some setting changes in the Xbox 360 dashboard for when you use the VGA cable.. Like say you want 720p, and the xbox 360 detects a CRT monitor.. then it'd automatically letterbox the display for you..

Or am i wrong?? Wishful thinking??

The output is one way... meaning it has no idea what's on the other end of your AV cable.

Some systems have a system in place to detect a load but that only tells it if it's connected or not, not what it is connected to.

[ModDoc]

Why do you want a female end on the cable?  My monitor has 2 vga inputs, and you can switch between them.  Both located on the back of the monitor, both female.  

Unfortunately I don’t have a widescreen, but since my 22" monitor goes up to 1920x1440@75Hz  (or 1600x1200@100hz as I use it), I'm hoping I can letterbox it.  Until I buy a nice HD tv that is.

[twistedsymphony]

QUOTE(ModDoc @ Oct 27 2005, 07:19 PM)

Why do you want a female end on the cable?  My monitor has 2 vga inputs, and you can switch between them.  Both located on the back of the monitor, both female. 

Unfortunately I don’t have a widescreen, but since my 22" monitor goes up to 1920x1440@75Hz  (or 1600x1200@100hz as I use it), I'm hoping I can letterbox it.  Until I buy a nice HD tv that is.

Typically CRT monitors 17" and below have the VGA cable hardwired into the back of it. so instead of a VGA port it has a wire sticking out that can't be removed.

In terms of CRT monitors most people have a 15 or 17" and these would fall into that category, meaning they'd need a female end on the cable to use it with the Xbox 360.

19"+ CRT monitors, LCD monitors, HDTVs, and Projectors however, all have a VGA port rather than a cable sticking out the back.

[biosehnsucht]

actually it's theoretically possible that the video encoder might have the extra pins for VGA PnP (DDC/EDID) functionality and that if so the VGA adapter might be able to detect the monitor's abilities .. however I'm not too sure on how the PnP gizmo works, if it actually reports its abilities or just a monitor ID which would have to be looked up (in which case keeping an up to date DB of them on the xbox360 would not be worth the effort).

[fahrenheit]

QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Oct 28 2005, 12:27 PM)

19"+ CRT monitors, LCD monitors, HDTVs, and Projectors however, all have a VGA port rather than a cable sticking out the back.

Not all, I have a 19" Auriga CRT that has a captive cable. Its cheap crap unlike my Sony G420's.

IMO, its better to manually adjust the vertical setting on the monitor rather than have the 360 add letterboxing to the image. Letterboxing uses some of the available resolution to draw the black bars, where as if you manually squeeze down the stretched 1280x720 image, you retain all of lines and get a better resulting image. Oh course this will be annoying if you have to change it constantly between your PC and 360 because you will always be fiddling with the vertical settings. Luckily my Sony's have dual inputs, so I don't have that issue.

This post has been edited by fahrenheit: Oct 30 2005, 03:13 AM

[biosehnsucht]

Actually, this can cause an odd sideaffect that really screws with your contrast and black levels - I have done this to get 720p working on my monitor (Viewsonic pro series 17", forgot exact model #) using a vdigi since normally it'll display it at 4:3.. but the contrast is somewhat screwed up and dark things are far too dark and bright far too bright, I guess this is more of a gamma effect but it does cause problems. it's annoying, but I still prefer 720p when I can get it vs 480i/p either 4:3 or 16:9. (for 480i only sources I have an iScan pro deinterlacer/upscaler.. )

now if the xbox360 does letterbox to say 1280x1024 then thats fine, you still have 720p lines in the middle.

[fahrenheit]

But where is the proof that the 360 will do 1280x1024? Even if it did, its still scaled. I'd rather have unscaled 720p with blank bars.

[Carlo210]

QUOTE(fahrenheit @ Oct 30 2005, 05:01 AM)

But where is the proof that the 360 will do 1280x1024? Even if it did, its still scaled. I'd rather have unscaled 720p with blank bars.

Even if it will give me full 4:3 1280x1024, I'd much rather select a letterbox option. I like playing in letterbox better, better sense of realism. I hate looking through a square.

[deadpool66]

Well lets hope there video option in the dashboard so we can play in letter box.

[Jackalpupz]

Im planning on using my 22" sony Trinitron flatscreen moniter to run the HD option on 360. It only has one male connecter that plugs into my vid card,  and the other end is stuck in the back of my moniter.   I already bought the VGA HD cable (just waiting for them to come in).  Now my question is,  am I gunna have to pick up that female to femail adapter to be able to hook up my moniter to the 360?  I think thats what you guys said but id like to varify it.

[Vejita]

QUOTE(fahrenheit @ Oct 30 2005, 04:01 AM)

But where is the proof that the 360 will do 1280x1024? Even if it did, its still scaled. I'd rather have unscaled 720p with blank bars.

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