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[Xtremity]

What changes with the difficulty level? Eg, monsters are harder to kill, bartering is harder, etc etc.

It may just be me, but I noticed with the two different saves I have, where it shows 'play time' & 'level', on normal difficulty, the first game i started, I was level 15+ after 24hrs play. One the next game I started, I changed to easiest level, Now Im level 12 after 47hrs.

[thax]

Level is dependant on your primary skills, so if those increase at a faster rate on an easier setting then it would be true. I don't think this is the case however, I think that the hardness setting only affects the general toughness of all NPC's.

[Ickypoopy]

The easier difficulty causes you to level up slower because each of your skills generally gets used to a lesser extent.  You heal less because you are hurt less, you use destruction spells because they are easier to kill, etc...  The difficulty level doesn't directly affect the leveling up of your character - it just causes you to use many of your skills less often!

[Dekedence]

QUOTE(Ickypoopy @ Jun 12 2006, 06:57 AM)

The easier difficulty causes you to level up slower because each of your skills generally gets used to a lesser extent.  You heal less because you are hurt less, you use destruction spells because they are easier to kill, etc...  The difficulty level doesn't directly affect the leveling up of your character - it just causes you to use many of your skills less often!

Very true....if you want to get your blade or Marksman go up then turn the difficulty up to the top and go kill some sheep. They'll take loadsa arrows to kill! You might go up on level per sheep!

[stormz]

i play on the easyest level too, i have 40 hours and am only about lever 13. i think i chose the wrong primary skills lol

[Dekedence]

QUOTE(stormz @ Jun 12 2006, 02:05 PM)

i play on the easyest level too, i have 40 hours and am only about lever 13. i think i chose the wrong primary skills lol

Yeah, I think I picked the wrong skills for my first character and probably the wrong birthsign. It took me ages to level up to level 27 and on starting a new character when I actually knew what I was doing I managed to get upto level 23 with 3 days of on-off play.

For my new character I chose something like:
Blunt
Block
Armourer
Conjuration
Restoration
Light Armour

its pretty easy to level up with this: conjure a creature, hit it till it turns on you and either block or take the damage....then restore health with a spell. When your weapons get knackered repair them. I did this for like the first half of every level I've done so far.

By the way, NEVER do Kvatch at level 19. I remember at level 3 it was like 6 stunted scamps that come out of the castle...a level 19 there were Clannfear's, Storm Atronachs and Daedrot which totalled to about 5. Super hard to kill as your allies don't level up with you and get killed after about 15 seconds.

[MaTiAz]

QUOTE(stormz @ Jun 12 2006, 02:05 PM)

i play on the easyest level too, i have 40 hours and am only about lever 13. i think i chose the wrong primary skills lol

You guys make me think I suck at Oblivion I've got like 85 hours and I'm at level 9

[thax]

QUOTE(Dekedence @ Jun 12 2006, 03:02 PM)

By the way, NEVER do Kvatch at level 19. I remember at level 3 it was like 6 stunted scamps that come out of the castle...a level 19 there were Clannfear's, Storm Atronachs and Daedrot which totalled to about 5. Super hard to kill as your allies don't level up with you and get killed after about 15 seconds.

Now you tell me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It's a good thing that the main characters can't die, because at level 27 the guards last about 2 seconds and your helper dude is always unconcious.

I wish there was a way to better equip some of your helpers. My one helper got beat up so bad that he was just wearing underwear at the end.

[Dekedence]

QUOTE(MaTiAz @ Jun 12 2006, 04:30 PM)

You guys make me think I suck at Oblivion I've got like 85 hours and I'm at level 9

Dude, you don't suck...you're just not focusing on your major skills. I mean, in theory you could be level 9 but be really strong in your minor skills...because they don't contribute to you leveling up. For example...I didn't pick Alchemy or Marksman as my major skills and they par with my blade skill of 70.

Just tell me your major skills and I could think up a way that you can level up quickly.

[I Am Aurora]

k so im a level 3 after 3 days of playing it and i have dark elf battlemage, im working on the arcane university quests so maybe thats why, im gonna join the fighters guild and start doing arena fights which should level me up more.

[Dekedence]

Right, if you used the preset Battlemage then you have the following Major Skills:
Blunt
Blade
Destruction
Alteration
Conjuration
Mysticism
Alchemy

I don't actually like this set up because Blade and Blunt are both Major skills...when you only use one at a time.

Conjuration + Blunt / Blade Destruction:
You need to find a quiet place, somewhere you won't get disturbed by enemies and somewhere away from guards (as they will help you kill conjured creatures if you make them turn on you).

Conjure up a creature...I suggest a Skeleton as they don't do anything special like Flame Atronachs and Dremora (they use spells, Skeletons don't). Now here's your choice on how to destroy him. You can use a blade weapon, blunt weapon or use destruction magic.

I suggest you use a combination of fighting (blunt / blade) with destruction as you probably won't have enough  magicka to ground a skeleton with destruction magic alone.

Now just wait 1 hour and your magicka will be restored.

Alteration / Mysticism:
You need to find a quiet place, somewhere you won't get disturbed by enemies. Basically a place you can wait or rest...I suggest your house or Cloud Ruler Temple.

Make sure you have some low-level spells to cast, I suggest Minor Life Detection for Mysticism and Protect for Alteration.

Just hang about and cast one of the spells until you run out of magicka. I also run around abit and jump to get my athletics and acrobatics skills up.

When you run out of magicka, just sleep or rest. You'll have your magicka restored and you can carry on.

Sneak + Security +Alchemy / Mercentile:
At lower levels there isn't that many ingredients that are compatible so I'm afraid you're most likely stuck with the "real stuff" (apples, bread, cheese, ham, pumpkin, watermelon etc.)

Don't bother spending money on these petty ingredients, get your sneak and security up by stealing it from the good people of Cyrodiil. There's only 5 gold to pay if you get caught breaking in so pay it if you do. But make sure you make your potions before you break into the next house to avoid losing all your stolen goods.

Frostcrag Spire is a good place for alchemy because there's alot of compatible ingredients for an Apprentice and upwards. Just pick them, make them into potions and there you go.

Finally, go sell them off to people; preferably people interested in alchemy and people with quite abit of gold to sell.

REMEMBER:
NEVER go up a level without using your training. Any skill can be put up 5 levels each general level you go up. It can cost abit, but it saves quite abit of time on things that are hard to level up...I find restoration quite hard to do.

[Maverick0984]

on Dekedence final note, i disagree with the training.  at early levels it is cheap to train but much easier to level at that point.  at later stages it is very expensive to train.  the only things i would really spend that money on are mercantile and security.  both seem to level up pretty difficultly.  any other thing is just a waste.  at some points it's like 500 gold for 1 level and it's a meaningless level from like 23 to 24 or something.  that kind of gold ads up real fast.  i've never really had more than 2000 gold at any one point really. obviously to each his own, and thats the beauty of the game.

while i was having some difficulty with leveling up i googled and found this.  it is a pretty extensive guide, alot of it is kidna useless, but there is a large section about leveling each skill up with tricks and such.

http://www.gamesrada...018&faqId=25193

[SharpOu]

Hello,

reading you guys telling about your leveling problems make me think that I have really made good choices.
My playclock says 40 hours, and I'm lvl23.

My major skills are:

Blade                  -      Journeyman
Block                  -      Journeyman
Restoration         -      Journeyman
Sneaking            -      Expert
Light armor         -      Espert
Acrobatics           -     Journeyman
Marksmanship    -       Journeyman

I don't even have to think the playing as, "I have to keep pushing this restoration button so I get lvl's"  
It just goes smooth.    

Oblivion is serious fun, I just got the benirus manor q done, and it's nice to live in a house!  And my money problems are over too, 22k gold.

[Maverick0984]

QUOTE(SharpOu @ Jul 22 2006, 06:36 PM)

Hello,

reading you guys telling about your leveling problems make me think that I have really made good choices.
My playclock says 40 hours, and I'm lvl23.

My major skills are:

Blade                  -      Journeyman
Block                  -      Journeyman
Restoration         -      Journeyman
Sneaking            -      Expert
Light armor         -      Espert
Acrobatics           -     Journeyman
Marksmanship    -       Journeyman

I don't even have to think the playing as, "I have to keep pushing this restoration button so I get lvl's"  
It just goes smooth.    

Oblivion is serious fun, I just got the benirus manor q done, and it's nice to live in a house!  And my money problems are over too, 22k gold.

what about your minor skills...they are important as well