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[CautionFlammable]

ok i had a glitch happen to me when i got a 100 in willpower my magicka went down to 180, for no reason... but i was searching for a way to fix this on any forums i could find and i came across this glitch http://forums.xbox.com/3792376/ShowPost.aspx the way it works is it lets you drop ring but you keep the effects!

I did it it works but don't do it to any skills that really only allow you to do better spells like destrucion, i did it there and now i can't get it under 100 so i can't use any spells over novice on destruction since that was my origanal...

Anyway have fun with it i would make a backup file before though. by the hopes this ones new

This post has been edited by CautionFlammable: Apr 20 2006, 03:09 AM

[THDVL]

That sounds really cool.. too bad the guys information is all jacked up. I made copies of my sigil stones before I read this.. how he says to do it is totally wrong.

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PART 1
This will explain how to make copies of sigil stones:
1.Have 2 types of arrows in your inventory and a bow
2.Equip one of them and pull RT to shoot(don't release it yet), press B to go to inventory
3.Click on arrows(equiped ones) 2 times, then go to the sigil stone you wanna make copies of
4.Drop the stone
5.Press B to exit inventory
6.Pick up all the copies of sigil stone from the ground

You arent supposed to click on the equiped arrows. Click on the unequiped arrows twice then go drop whatever you want to clone, now go back to your weapons and drop the unequiped arrows, now press b to exit. You now have clones.. make sure the volume isnt way up as the sigil stones will be really loud.

Also in "PART 2" he makes the same mistake about clicking on the equiped arrows. After step 10 on part 2 I loose track of what he's trying to say. "-now drop that ring(both copies if you see them) Wahhh?
Hopefully someone will clean this up so its understandable and correct.

[troist]

i click on the equipped arrows twice and it works fine for me... the guide i have is:

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The instructions give the easiest way to get this glitch to work... you must equip the exact number of arrows that I will list

1) Equip Iron/Steel/Elven Arrows (2)
2) Pull back using RT then click B
3) At inventory screen, Click A twice on the Equipped Arrows
4) Drop the item you want to keep the constant effect from
5) Exit Inv. Screen
6) Pick up the arrow you fired and the 2 rings you just duped
7) Equip one of the duped rings and Equip Iron/Steel/Elven Arrows (10)
Pull back again, click B
9) Double Click on the equipped arrows
10) Now drop the Unequipped Dupe of the ring you're wearing

Notice that even the equipped ring will be dropped.

it doesn't have to be a ring, works with armour etc as well... that guide probably doesn't need to be so long, but it works...

[CautionFlammable]

ok i make my own directions

1.Do the dupe glitch to a ring and the sigil stones.
2.use the stone to enchant the rings

NEXT

1.pull back on the bow hold it, and hit B
2.equipt(sp) the ring you want to have the perminate effect, now make sure theres only 2, 1 is equipped and the other will just be in the invetory.
3.next go and change the arrow to a second type you have hit A twice on them
4.now go were the in the invetory are rings are drop the one that isn't equipt. this will cause both to drop and you still get the effect of the first one.

Also you can do this at the spell making alters if you have enough money, not a problem for me i got 6 million

P.S. sorry about spelling, i'm a little tired

This post has been edited by CautionFlammable: Apr 20 2006, 03:54 AM

[twistedsymphony]

QUOTE(THDVL @ Apr 19 2006, 10:07 PM)

That sounds really cool.. too bad the guys information is all jacked up. I made copies of my sigil stones before I read this.. how he says to do it is totally wrong.

You arent supposed to click on the equiped arrows. Click on the unequiped arrows twice then go drop whatever you want to clone, ...

You don't have to have 2 sets of arrows at all.

Simply this:
-have a bow and arrow equipped
-Draw back on the bow (hold RT) and while holding enter the menu (press B)
-Move to the Arrows you have equipped and unequip them (press A ONCE), a message will pop up saying you can't unequip weapons while attacking (it wont work unless this message pops up)
-Move to the item you want to dupe and drop it (press X)
-Exit the menu (press B)

The item you dropped will be duped by the exact number of arrows you have equipped, you can even dupe other types of arrows. their are very few items I've found that can't be duped, some of those include

-Skeleton Key
-Nirnroot
-Soul Gem with a soul in it
-stolen items where you have no not-stolen version in your inventory

Your method works because you do my method plus a whole bunch of unnecessary steps, I did your method a couple of times to try it out and then I did it without following that method exactly by accident and discovered most dupe guides had a whole lot of unnecessary steps.

You actually don't even need to have the bow drawn, if you're blocking or doing something else that would prevent you from unequipping the arrows the dupe will work. The key is that you must try to unequip a weapon with a quantity higher then 1 and receive the message that says the item cannot be unequipped, it's most easily accomplished by drawing a bow and trying to unequip your arrows.

[THDVL]

Nice! Thx for clearing that up, Cant wait to try this out.. too bad I'm at work right now  

[logan6988]

So with this can you actually build your primary skills and gain levels? Or this only allows you to bump up your specific attributes level with magic items, just stacked on top of each other?

[CautionFlammable]

it just bumps up the the attributes. it the same thing  you have a 49 in destrution and you put on a ring that give you 5 more destrution. You will hav 54 destrution but that wont effect the kind of spells you can buy your character will be a apprentice not a journeyman.

It works great i finally got my acrobatics really high attackeda bunch of people in the town then jumped onto a building. also very usefull on mountains

This post has been edited by CautionFlammable: Apr 20 2006, 02:20 PM

[boxrocker]

You can dupe soul gems that have a soul in it, you cannot dupe black soul gems.  

[twistedsymphony]

QUOTE(boxrocker @ Apr 20 2006, 09:29 AM)

You can dupe soul gems that have a soul in it, you cannot dupe black soul gems.  

ah yes you're right.. thanks for that correction.  

[DANNYBROOK]

Ima try that when I'm done with the game.  I'll make the most rediculously powerful spells with all that Intel and Willpower... hehehehehe...

Can you say
120 Shock
120 Fire
120 Frost
120 Health
Damage on target in like a 60 foot radius?

KILL EVERYTHING!

[boxrocker]

QUOTE(DANNYBROOK @ Apr 20 2006, 09:40 AM)

Ima try that when I'm done with the game.  I'll make the most rediculously powerful spells with all that Intel and Willpower... hehehehehe...

Can you say
120 Shock
120 Fire
120 Frost
120 Health
Damage on target in like a 60 foot radius?

KILL EVERYTHING!

This increases your attributes, not your level.  When making a spell, you are  limited by your level.  
This trick is really only something you should do in either moderation or after you have maxed your guy.

Also, remember to not use this for personality since there is a quest that requires you to drop it.


For the record, I found this trick several weeks ago when I posted about the effects of a helm staying when it wasn't on.  I just didn't know how I did it.

[Geoper]

I also did this trick on mistake with the ring of the vipereye.  And you can dupe black soul gems, i did it today, but could not dupe a black soul gem with a soul in it...

[Vasher]

Duping does not "work" for me. The only items I've been able to "dupe" are rings and gems, but they are only "superficial", not tangible. I've never had more than one or two duped items drop, though the number of arrows dropped has been 10-35. They are only pseudo-duped. They show up in my inventory, but when I go to enchant items the rings and stones are not there, only the ones I obtained legitimately. I tried going to a shop to see if I could sell them, but they aren't there. I dropped them, but only the "legitimate" ones hit the floor, the others "vanished".

Another weird thing is that the "power leveling" doesn't work for me. I counted the number of times I raised 3 lesser attributes then leveled. I reverted to a save then leveled the minors to 10x's each (including the prior count), but when I slept I got the same +'s as I did the first time, only a +2 to personality was added.

I think my 360 got smart to the cheats.

 

Oh, and it seems Kameo fubared my load times. I'm off to make a rant thread.

[twistedsymphony]

I should note that if the quantity of the item you're trying to dupe is greater then the number of arrows you're un equipping then it wont work.

I should also note that the dupe sometimes just wont work for whatever reason (maybe 1 in 5 times it doesn't work), simply doing it again usually does the trick if the item is dupe-able.

Also if you have say 30 arrows and 5 gems and you dupe the 5 gems you'll only see 6 hit the floor, but each will have a quantity of 5.

Duping items you already have a quantity of is difficult and unless all are dropped it usually doesn't work, it also has a higher probably of just not working at all.