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[Deftech]

QUOTE(krims0n @ Apr 3 2006, 10:38 AM)

Can you do the dark brotherhood guild quests without getting kicked out of all the other guilds? (ie: Are there are any quests where you have no choice but to murder someone and get caught doing it?)

I had no choice, it counted me killing one of the combatants in the arena as a murder  

I got the message it was noticed, and sure enough, I was approached in my waterfront shack

[krims0n]

I was contacted by the dark brotherhood after doing the Arena, so I'm assuming I "murdered" someone in the arena as well. I didn't however get kicked out of the mages guild, so I'm not sure.

I'm referring more specifcally to the Dark Brotherhood quests. I really want to try these out, but I don't want to get kicked out of the Mages guild since the Arcane university is such a valuable resource.

[Deftech]

QUOTE(krims0n @ Apr 3 2006, 03:40 PM)

I was contacted by the dark brotherhood after doing the Arena, so I'm assuming I "murdered" someone in the arena as well. I didn't however get kicked out of the mages guild, so I'm not sure.

I'm referring more specifcally to the Dark Brotherhood quests. I really want to try these out, but I don't want to get kicked out of the Mages guild since the Arcane university is such a valuable resource.

thats why Im doing all the mages guild quests before I join the brotherhood.

[krims0n]

But even when you're done the mage guild quests you'll probably want to retain your access to the arcane university (for enchanting items, building more powerful spells as you level up).

[Deftech]

I will use a save and be sure to not touch it incase something happens like I do with everything else that concerns me. Believe me, if I couldnt access Arcane anymore, my incentive to play this game would plummet. Thats been the most fun for me, enchanting everything to my liking

has anyone actually seen a Dremora *Lord* conjure spell? Not just the weak ass Dremora, but the Lord one?

The most powerful creature I have is the Lich, his effectiveness is 140. I havent seen a Dremore Lord conjure, and I check all Guilds a few times a day to see what pops up. Ive had 100 Conjure for 3 or 4 days now and still nothing.

[krims0n]

Yeah. I've been kicked out of the Mages guild a few times (reloaded the save, because no way i'm doing that 20 vampire dust, etc, etc quest). Every time I get an immediate notice that I am kicked out, so I would imagine if your doing the DB quests you can just save your game lots and reload if you get the message from mages guild and not do that again.

This post has been edited by krims0n: Apr 3 2006, 10:57 PM

[Deftech]

what are you doing to get kicked out so much? lol

I have 27 vampire dusts sitting in my chest ready for such events. I have almost as many deadra hearts if needed as well.

[krims0n]

Mostly accidents.

1. Went outside to go exploring, there was a horse there and I assumed it was mine. Saw the red horseshoe as I mounted but it was too late. Was seen by a guard, instant dismissal from the guild.

2. Was taking my "complimentary" stuff from one of the guilds, accidently picked up a non-complimentary soul gem.

3. While doing one of the recommendations (gold road with the merchant killing mage). When I saw her I immediately attacked her rather then letting those people following me kill her and it was viewed as "murder".

This post has been edited by krims0n: Apr 3 2006, 11:02 PM

[pennywisdom]

just so you guys know, ive joined all the guilds but didnt do any of the missions. then i completely beat the arena and just yesterday totally beat the dark brotherhood.

i didnt get kicked out of any guilds though  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Deftech]

QUOTE(pennywisdom @ Apr 3 2006, 04:38 PM)

just so you guys know, ive joined all the guilds but didnt do any of the missions. then i completely beat the arena and just yesterday totally beat the dark brotherhood.

i didnt get kicked out of any guilds though  

thanks for the update

and Krimson, I killed the lady on the gold road instead of letting the 2 following me handle it, I didnt get booted.

one shot with a greater staff of fire and she was toast.

[saunders73]

QUOTE(krims0n @ Apr 3 2006, 11:38 AM)

 Are there are any quests where you have no choice but to murder someone and get caught doing it?)

In the Theives guild in hte second gray fox quest you have to get an arrow from a wizard...and i killed him and i got kicked from the mages guild...luckily i had enough vampire dusts and daedra hearts saved up

QUOTE(Deftech @ Apr 3 2006, 05:16 PM)

has anyone actually seen a Dremora *Lord* conjure spell? Not just the weak ass Dremora, but the Lord one?

I have one, costed 2500 gold and i got it from selena something in the bruma mages guild

[Deftech]

QUOTE(saunders73 @ Apr 3 2006, 07:42 PM)

In the Theives guild in hte second gray fox quest you have to get an arrow from a wizard...and i killed him and i got kicked from the mages guild...luckily i had enough vampire dusts and daedra hearts saved up
I have one, costed 2500 gold and i got it from selena something in the bruma mages guild

thanks, but b4 I go hunting for it, how powerful is it? does it beat a 140 by a lot? i should hope so if it cost 2500 gold  

[Deftech]

Found a guy selling the Dremora Lord summon in Bravil for 505 gold, and just as i suspected, its weaker than what I already have.

109 effectiveness, nothing special compared to my staff wielding Lich that rates 140

from what I can tell, I have the 3 best Conjurations in the game. they rate 120(werewolf), 130(Gloom Wraith) and 140(Lich[goblin thingie with powerful staff]).

If anyone has seen better, Please let me know. I need new creatures to summon, these things are getting boring  

[Carlo210]

What do you mean 'rate'?

[ILLusions0fGrander]

im guessing rate = MP consumption