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[Ballz2TheWallz]

they've done it, officially fuck up the game they have completly fucked up the shadow system because "they cant get it to run fast"



lame

"Remember that cool E3 video which showed the prison cell with the shackles on the wall casting a shadow from the torch ? And on the floor, a skeleton's ribs casting soft shadows inside itself ?

The official boards are going apeshit because it's been revealed for "performance reasons" objects will no longer cast shadows in the final build of the game. NPCs and player characters cast them and the trees in the forests have some kind of generic shadow system but despite all the earlier videos, inanimate objects will not anymore.

Anyone else sick of companies deleting features to support the mass market ?
I don't understand why they couldn't leave it as a checkbox.
I guess they're worried little Johnny will cry if the shadows melt his fx-5600.

meh"

[MN-Mod-Man]

Are you serious, shadows do not make or break a game, while they do make them seam more realistic, I find it hard to believe that this alone will make the game suck.

[Videogamebuyer14]

QUOTE(Ballz2TheWallz @ Jan 29 2006, 10:57 AM)

they've done it, officially fuck up the game they have completly fucked up the shadow system because "they cant get it to run fast"



lame

"Remember that cool E3 video which showed the prison cell with the shackles on the wall casting a shadow from the torch ? And on the floor, a skeleton's ribs casting soft shadows inside itself ?

The official boards are going apeshit because it's been revealed for "performance reasons" objects will no longer cast shadows in the final build of the game. NPCs and player characters cast them and the trees in the forests have some kind of generic shadow system but despite all the earlier videos, inanimate objects will not anymore.

Anyone else sick of companies deleting features to support the mass market ?
I don't understand why they couldn't leave it as a checkbox.
I guess they're worried little Johnny will cry if the shadows melt his fx-5600.

meh"

Why don't they just release two versions?

FX-5600 Version and Holy Crap 2X SLI Cards.

[Ballz2TheWallz]

QUOTE(MN-Mod-Man @ Jan 29 2006, 06:05 PM)

Are you serious, shadows do not make or break a game, while they do make them seam more realistic, I find it hard to believe that this alone will make the game suck.

dude the lighting had to do with so much of the atmosphere of the game its not even funny

before

after

[lileclerc2X]

yea he's right.. it looks better with the shadows... how are the games in the next couple of months going to be "nex generation" without shadows lol

[Deftech]

Gaming forum?

I'll let you post it there, Im not going to be the one to post such news, you'll be attacked by a legion of Lycans. I think thats why you posted it here instead anyways  

[CattyKid]

So does this affect the 360 version as well, or are we just talking about the PC versions, as you are rerferring to graphics cards?

[Ballz2TheWallz]

QUOTE(Deftech @ Jan 29 2006, 07:10 PM)

Gaming forum?

I'll let you post it there, Im not going to be the one to post such news, you'll be attacked by a legion of Lycans. I think thats why you posted it here instead anyways  

i figure more people view these forums

[VOlition]

It's kinda funy, the picture without the shading has at least 20 kilobytes less than the picture that has the shading.

[Ballz2TheWallz]

QUOTE(VOlition @ Jan 29 2006, 08:28 PM)

It's kinda funy, the picture without the shading has at least 20 kilobytes less than the picture that has the shading.

that hardly makes much of a differnce in this arguement, but if it helps you sleep at night reduce the bigger pictures file size

were looking at the differnces with no shadows not how sharp his penis wrinkles are

[Deftech]

QUOTE(Ballz2TheWallz @ Jan 29 2006, 01:33 PM)

i figure more people view these forums

true, but topics in here tend to get overlooked easier due to mass replies in other threads.

In Gaming, you'd have 40 more replies by now, either cursing this new piece of info, or not caring either way.

[Ballz2TheWallz]

QUOTE(Deftech @ Jan 29 2006, 09:12 PM)

true, but topics in here tend to get overlooked easier due to mass replies in other threads.

In Gaming, you'd have 40 more replies by now, either cursing this new piece of info, or not caring either way.

im rather pissed i cant even find the damn german video.....one would think a simply google search would do it but FUCK no

[KAGE360]

i posted the video that the pic was taken from in the gaming forum.

i have noticed the shadows toned down as well but these vids are from the PC version, i doubt it but maybe hopefully the 360 version will have all features on.  

it happens a lot of times in games where they will get deeper into development and realize that the hardware limitations do not allow them to achieve all the features to the level they previously wanted.  

halo 2 is the perfect example.  even though the final game has the effects the original technology trailer has, they are toned down.  unlike a lot of people i didnt expect the full game to achieve that level of detail all the way through, there has to be some set backs made once the developers also include other features of the game that will eat at the system's resources.

like halo2, the effects are still there but toned down a little.  in the end it wont make or break the game or change it from a gorgeous looking game to an ugly one.  watch the full video and you will still be impressed (atleast i was) and if not then maybe your expectations are a little bit too hight this early in the next generation, were still just starting the 1st generation of games.  if this game was delayed another year and given that much more time to optimize then yes i would be complaining but i would rather have the game in the next few months with less shadows then wait another year for full shadow support.  like i said, the game will still be one of the most gorgeous games out (need to consider how vast, detailed, and power hungry the game really is) and maybe the lesser features will only be on the PC version as there are other games where the PC version needed to be toned down apposed to the 360 version (example: outfit)

[mgamer20o0]

i also think it sucks that they take stuff out but i would rather have it now then later.

[Ballz2TheWallz]

the difference in halo is pretty much texture resolution.....i cant say i was dissapointed in the way halo2 looked at all

oblivion took it to another level after all the other cuts theyve me