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Exobex

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« Reply #45 on: April 16, 2007, 05:13:00 AM »

F.A.O. UK readers:-

Under the Sale of Goods Act, retailers are responsible for faulty goods (that are not 'of satisfactory quality') for up to six years after you bought them.  In Scotland the period is five years after something goes wrong.  'Satisfactory quality' covers various aspects that could be wrong with the goods, including whether they've lasted as long as you could reasonably expect.  A 'reasonable' lifetime for different products is not defined in law and would ultimately be for a court to decide.  But, for example, you might reasonably expect a £600 television to last longer than 18 months, but you wouldn't necessarily expect compensation if a £20 kettle broke down in this period.

More info here.
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grim_d

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« Reply #46 on: April 16, 2007, 05:29:00 AM »

QUOTE(LostIt @ Apr 16 2007, 12:15 AM) View Post

Don't even get me started on Quality Control (or lack there of.)

Things I've returned this year...
-Xbox 360 - just under 1 Month old, 2 or 3 days after I installed PGR 3 with the Wireless Racing Wheel (Install Drivers)
-Wireless PS2 Guitar Hero Controller - The yellow button never worked.
-Pelican XBox (orig) controller - Right analog stick didn't work.
-PSP - Screen had a scratch on the inside of the screen (backside)
It's amazing how much time I have to waste standing in line at the local Best Buy. It feels like I spend more time at customer service than most of the employees. You would think I'm insulting the customer service people by returning defective hardware by the way they act.


you must be a very unlucky person. In all my days on this earth the only thing that iv'e had a problem with was my NDS lite when i got it, the bottom screen had a dead pixel.
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LostIt

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« Reply #47 on: April 16, 2007, 05:42:00 AM »

spinr34
You say paranoia, I say shotty manufacturing. I hope you enjoy your $450 investment turning door stop as much as others did.


Manufacturer's who sell garbage get no remorse from me... maybe my money (stupid me), but no remorse when I see people pirating their wares.
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grim_d

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« Reply #48 on: April 16, 2007, 05:46:00 AM »

QUOTE(LostIt @ Apr 16 2007, 12:49 PM) View Post

spinr34
You say paranoia, I say shotty manufacturing. I hope you enjoy your $450 investment turning door stop as much as others did.
Manufacturer's who sell garbage get no remorse from me... maybe my money (stupid me), but no remorse when I see people pirating their wares.


well you would, since youve had a faulty console.
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shinomen

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« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2007, 07:59:00 AM »

Conspiracy Theory:  Maybe consoles getting bricked by heating issues, updates, etc. is Microsoft's fail safe way for protecting against system mods that would allow users to pirate games and what not.  

From what I've seen so far, modding a 360 takes opening the console and breaking the warranty sticker, which voids the warranty.  So if MS breaks your console and you have to send it in they will most likely fix it for you if the warranty sticker is in tact.  But if that warranty sticker is not in tact they "will not touch it" (I was told this by a support rep) even if you offer to pay for the service.  

I don't remember the first xbox having so many problems like the 360 has had, but it is a different beast with more interactivity and updates than the first xbox, plus I wasn't paying attention when the first xbox came out.

I do know that my brother called me up and said that his 360 has bricked with the 3 red lights.  My first response was "You were playing Guitar Hero II right?"  ..........."how did you know that?"

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« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2007, 12:01:00 PM »

QUOTE(Tony42077 @ Apr 15 2007, 02:19 PM) View Post

That sounds like the same montra that Chrysler used back in the 80s. "People want a new car every 5 years, so we'll make the cars last 5 years." One thing that I do know, is that 360s don't last nearly as long as the original Xbox. I've modded over 80 Xbox1s and all but 3 (ver1.0 PS problems) of them are still running fine (aside from a DVD drive problem here and there). Of the 15 Xbox360s that I have I have first-hand knowledge of, 4 of them had to be sent back for the 3 rings of death. The parts that they use are either of less quality, or the nature of the part allows for a higher failure rate.

I have no doubt that most of people's problems are from heat issues. All of my friends that stand their 360s up vertically have yet to have any problems, while all of the '3rod' 360s sat horizontally.

Hopefully the new smaller CPUs will cut down on the number of hardware failure rates, because the current rate is unacceptable. 3-5% my ass. If every 360 out there was played for an average of 2 hours a day, we would be seeing numbers closer to 15-20%. Overall, I would have to say that MS has made more lemons with the 360 than any other hardware they've produced.

With all of that being said, you shouldn't have to baby a game system to keep it running longer than a year.



i gotta agree with tony... cause the bottom line is ... when u pay 300-400 dollars for some electronic device it damn sure better last a while (3-5years minimum, closer to 5+) ... cause if a xbox360 dies within a year or two thats just bs and should be replaced for free.

and i to think the original xbox is much more reliable than the xbox360 from what i can tell so far... cause even though my xbox360 still works and dont lock up in games so far... if it's been sitting for a while (in other words completely cooled down) i usually have to power cycle it 2-3times before it shows anything on the screen at all but once it does show stuff on the screen it works perfect fine so far... and i even got a couple "Error 074" screens so far but i usually power it off and back on and it's fine.... but once the system is warm it seems to power on the first time and just work.

im guessing it's a matter of time before it dies?... cause i bought it recently for about 330 dollars (premium system) on half.com which the guy claimed it was new (said there was no box and said he just tested it to make sure it worked) which i think he sorta lied cause there where a couple user profiles on it and some downloaded content to it... but once i took it apart to mod it there was no dust build up in the fans so i think for the most part the system was new.... it was basically doing that power up issue the day i got it.

i just hope to god this system dont die cause 330 dollars for me is alot to shell out if the systems going to die  anytime soon and the only reason i bought the system was to play Forza Motorsport 2 which aint even out til may 15th 2007 or so.

so basically as far as i can tell the original xbox is far more reliable then the xbox360 is (atleast in terms of any major issues) ... cause i had my original xbox since around aug 2004 and it was my cousins before this and he got his around the time they came out (it's a v1.0 xbox) and thats still working 100percent perfect to this day (besides the thomson dvd-rom drive died, which i replaced with philips).... plus the heat does feel quite warm going out the back of the system (xbox360)... i wish microsoft would have put faster fans in it... cause i would rather have a little more noise if the cooling is quite a bit better than risk damage to the system cause of lack of cooling just cause microsoft wants the system to be quite sad.gif
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« Reply #51 on: April 17, 2007, 12:14:00 AM »

While I love my 360, I must too admit that I believe their to be a design problem with the 360's MOBO/GPU/CPU. I've just seen too many of them go down at this point to believe its a coincidence... That being said, I'll buy another one every couple of years if I have to, it is THAT much better than the PS3 imo.  blink.gif
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