QUOTE(d-range @ Apr 28 2008, 11:30 AM)

I think that's not really an 'excuse' for crappy online play. I don't really play online much anyway so I don't care that much, but saying matchmaking with friends is redundant because you can 'just all turn up at one house and play' is a bit stupid. It's not really an option for most people, it's not convenient, and there's not really a reason why the PS3 doesn't have friends lists etc. That said, the only game I tried playing online on my PS3 was Guitar Hero III and I can only say the online play sucks balls. It took me 10+ minutes for any game to start, there where virtually no other people and I was unable to connect to over half of the people present. If a simple game like Catan on the 360 works so well online, it's strange to see how terrible GH works, which (I think) is a direct consequence of the 360 having integrated libraries for online play, matchmaking etc, which makes stuff a lot easier for developers. It's definitely a BIG plus for the 360 over the PS3. Not even mentioning the crappy PS3 store and the problems I had downloading updates (slow, huge and fail a lot). I didn't manage to race online on GT5P either, but since I hate that game anyway (got fed up with the boring gameplay after only 4 hours) I've not tried that many times (only twice, in fact)
I've seen you make this comment before but I think this is a really bad argument as well. Only people who hacked their xbox 1 and put really big HD's in it wanted their games on the HD, and I assume most of which where downloaded illegaly which makes copying to the HD a lot more interesting. Since people are not really hacking the PS3 or downloading 'backups' for it, and seeing that some PS3's have only 20GB HDs and most of them have only 40GB, with installation to HD becoming the standard, this is going to suck a lot for average Joe or Jane who just buys a game console and finds out the HD runs out after they have more than 5 games. Call it whatever you like, but as soon as I will have to start cleaning my HD when I want to switch games and wait another 15 minutes to reinstall, I'm going to be very, very annoyed.
It's not an excuse for crappy online play. I didn't say the online play was crappy. As for you not being able to get a match on GH, I can't comment I don't have it, but every game I play online which is nearly every game I have, I have never, repeat never had a problem finding a team or opponent. Are you actually suggesting there will be no online players for GTA 4?? Surely not.
Your comment on integrated libraries means nothing to me. Care to expand on what is different between matching up in COD 4 on the PS3 and on the 360?? Don't you have a list of your friends on your PS3?
Stupid to have friends round for a gaming session??? Not convenient?? You must have a different definition of friends than me. My friends are people I socialise with, most live fairly close, I get on with them all so having them round for a beer and a game is not inconvenient or stupid. You ought to try it. Why would I want to play them online if I could simply phone them and say fancy coming round for a game and a chat and a laugh. It's good to interact with humans face to face, seems a bit impersonal doing it via the console.
As for your comment about all the people who backed up games onto the Xbox only liking it because they are all pirates, you must be speaking for your own experience because I did it with my genuine games to save the disc and better still to save having to get the disc out every time.
Oh and if you are worried about your HDD so much fit a 250GB. Personally I have 17 games for the PS3 and I don't need a bigger HDD yet, that includes loading patches for Pro Evo as well.