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[LowProfileWurm]

The time frame was what I couldn't nail down.  I had Eternal Champions for both the Genesis and Sega CD (yeah, I bought it... Sewer Shark!)  

Man, I could go for some old school arcade action.  I remember the Pit II really well because it was the first time I'd seen anyone break their neck in a fall.  I was an impressionable youth...  

[twistedsymphony]

I whole heartedly agree that the SNES had the best D-pad of any console. Actually ALL of Nintendo's controllers have fantastic D-pads. The GC is a little on the small side but still very good.

Sony has the 2nd best D-pads in my opinion, they're similar to the Nintendo D-pads in that they have a short throw and respond accurately but the separation chews up your fingers in 2D fighters.

The Xbox 1 D-pad was just OK, nothing special, it was a bit sloppy in that it has such a large throw you often hit up and right or down and right when you meant to just hit right. The 360 has this same problem with the ADDED problem that it also floats a little bit in the controller housing. Meaning that you can physically push the D-pad against the plastic housing in any direction. When you go to push that direction it will hit the case before it registers making it so you have to push much harder in that direction. It would seem that this isn't limited to any specific controller either, I have 4 wireless controllers and HAD 1 wired and they all did it, as do those controllers of my friend's.

[Legendary Badass]

I agree with Twistedsymphony. The SNES had one amazing d-pad. It was so good that it really is a big part of why the Mario games on that system are so much fun to play. I think the NEs had a tough d-pad. It worked well, but it sure hurt to use for more than an hour. I've had a hard time playing DOA4 on the 360 because you end up accidentally jumping when you want to simply approach with a combo. I hope that the d-pad doesn't get in the way of my insane hadoken skills.

[Shinamano]

Sorry...the best D-Pad by huge leaps and bounds is the original Sega Saturn pad...nothing comes close...I have used any and every pad/controller/arcade stick for Street Fighter and it is the best.

That is the ultimate pad. I can only dream that someday we can use it on the 360...

On a side Note Lizard I would love to see that tutorial.

[Lizard King]

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On a side Note Lizard I would love to see that tutorial.

Well, In my many years in front of a computer, Ive had my first catastrophic HD crash. So, I gotta take new pics...think Im just gonna do a complete mod over again....so yes, keep your eyes peeled for a DIY arcade controller.

[twistedsymphony]

metaldevil, the PS2 gamepad has the same pressure sensitive buttons as the Xbox 1 controllers

sorr Shinamano but I'd have to disagree with you on the saturn d-pad, I've never liked Sega's dpads, Pre DC they've always been too big, and the DC had a D-pad similar to those on the xbox, in that it's too tall.

IMO if you just threw a SNES D-pad on a new 360 controller, and moved the back and start buttons to where they were on the controllers S you'd have the most solid controller ever made.

[twistedsymphony]

agreed...

I'd like to see someone make a line of solid classicly designed game pads with generic cords like the X-Arcade joysticks... buy a set of controllers and use them for life.

Even better they could create a single wireless standard and simply sell you the appropriate dongle for whatever console.

[miggidy]

QUOTE(Shinamano @ Mar 2 2006, 02:52 PM)

Sorry...the best D-Pad by huge leaps and bounds is the original Sega Saturn pad...nothing comes close...I have used any and every pad/controller/arcade stick for Street Fighter and it is the best.

That is the ultimate pad. I can only dream that someday we can use it on the 360...

My thoughts exactly.
I guess only a hardcore Street Fighter fan would really know

You can still find the Japanese version which is considered even better than the American version.
It was just sleeker and more comfortable.
Sega re-released these control pads for the PS2 and they're just as great as they were back then.
Here's hoping someone comes up with a PS2 to Xbox 360 adapter....

Don't get me wrong, the top arcade sticks are great.
There's no better way to experience the arcades at home than with a good quality arcade stick.
But my fingers are much quicker than my wrists, that's why when it comes to 2D fighting games, d-pads are the best. Who can argue against physics?

[Joergen]

I have the launch version of the saturn with those pads and I remember the sharp round thingies digging painfully into my thumb in some sweaty virtua fighter matches.. especially with VF2 one of those bank teller's rumbber thumbs woulda been handy.

The worst was Tomb Raider when it was the most next gen game ever, 3 weeks of playing it straight after christmas took its toll on the dpad thumb.

Bytheby the ABC XYZ controller was introduced on the Megadrive/Genesis just for Super Streetfighter II and select other games then used it also. I was happy to see the xbox duke having almost the same configuration of buttons but the S and now finally the 360 controller took it back to the SNES configuration.

Also with the sega controllers you could also hit one row of buttons with your thumb (A+B+C) which is something much harder to do with todays controllers and afaik no game uses three face button moves these days?

[Shinamano]

I was (and still am) a big Sega and Street Fighter Fan. When the Saturn in all of its 2D glory came out I have never needed another controller for a 2D fighting game again...

The Dreamcast allowed easy connection of the Saturn controller and the Xbox also had an adapter to accomidate the greatest controller ever...here is hoping that someone does the same for the 360...

As for classic controllers there is a company (cant think of the name) that will take old controllers and hook them up with USB ports...I wonder if we will be able to use them on the 360...it would be cool to have a SNES and Saturn Pad rocking old school games on XBLA.

[miggidy]

QUOTE(Joergen @ Mar 2 2006, 09:45 PM)

I have the launch version of the saturn with those pads and I remember the sharp round thingies digging painfully into my thumb in some sweaty virtua fighter matches.. especially with VF2 one of those bank teller's rumbber thumbs woulda been handy.

The worst was Tomb Raider when it was the most next gen game ever, 3 weeks of playing it straight after christmas took its toll on the dpad thumb.

Bytheby the ABC XYZ controller was introduced on the Megadrive/Genesis just for Super Streetfighter II and select other games then used it also. I was happy to see the xbox duke having almost the same configuration of buttons but the S and now finally the 360 controller took it back to the SNES configuration.

Also with the sega controllers you could also hit one row of buttons with your thumb (A+B+C) which is something much harder to do with todays controllers and afaik no game uses three face button moves these days?

Here's the Japanese version of the Sega Saturn control pad!



As you can see, it's basically one of the 6 button Sega Genesis controllers that Sega brought out for Street Fighter 2. It's a little bit more ergonomic and has two shoulder buttons.
It's like perfect and is still a sought after pad.
Like I said, its such a popular pad that it prompted Sega to re-release it for the PS2 to accompany its line of Sega Ages PS2 titles.

I was pissed when Sega ditched the 6 button face design when the Dreamcast launched.
When they said the reason was for simplicity purposes, a nasty feeling came to my stomach as I realized it was the end of 6 button faced controllers

[Shinamano]

The lack of 6-button layouts bothers me as well...

I do still prefer the pad i posted, but the other is a close second.

[twistedsymphony]

QUOTE(metaldevil @ Mar 2 2006, 04:52 PM)

I think the only thing that would keep me from buying a better controller for the 360 is if it's wired. It'd be like taking a step forward while falling backwards.

If you have the skills and a controller large enough you should be able to hack up a wireless 360 controller and say, make a joystick connect to the 360 wirelessly.

I'm planing a mod along those lines myself (hence the request in the sig).

[dgrams2003]

...where is streetfighter?

[LowProfileWurm]

QUOTE(dgrams2003 @ Mar 3 2006, 01:46 PM)

...where is streetfighter?

...at Capcom patiently waiting for release.