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[chelfy]

Here is my very basic summary and opinion on PS3 vs 360.

The graphics and processing power between the 2 systems is small, not enough of a factor to justify one system over the other.  A new PC with 8800GT vid card will blow away both systems on graphics, call of duty 4 for instance.

The PS3 is more reliable, quiet, and overall a much better deal hardware wise (Wireless, bluray, internal ps).

The 360 has a better dashboard and much better online experience.  PS3's don't even come with a headset.

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My opinion, if you are a light gamer and home theater enthusiast reach for the PS3 for versatility.  
If you want the best online gaming experience and friends network get a 360.

Overall the "fun" factor for me is in the 360, and that is why I chose to sell my PS3.

[tantrance]

Unbelivable !!!
Four chances .:
 Or the guys who tested this where drunk (witch is the most reliable chance)
 Or they "do" like the "pop" , because the pop smokes the dope !! (equaly reliable)
 Or PS3 Fanboys ;( Could be ??)
 Or the tree chances together (i´ve found it!)

C'mon ? What is the goal , increase the ps3 sells? I´ve played this very games and i´ve seen that is exactly the OPOSITE. The graphics are far away better in XBOX360 than in PS3 even if played in a SONY Bravia LCD(witch is the case);

Im not a MS lover but this statements about PS3 been better are pure marketing strategy.

Here are some examples of Sony´s marketing strategy .:

PS3 the console that waited until MS XBOX360 launch to launch a better console (and has failed, it's a fact)
The PS3 release date was changed for tree times before the XBOX360 release (curious ?)
Cell Processor, a processor that nobody knows how to work with it at full power (advanced technology ? I doubt it)

Question

PS3 Cell Processor has been used only at 30% +- of its full capacity(what are they waiting for ; Xbox360  Ultimate ??)

Where is the creator of this processor ? Maybe this is some kind of ALIEN TECHNOLOGY right ?
We will keep waiting until Sony unveills  the "true power" of PS3 , untilll there play XBOX360 or Nintendo wii(witch is far away more fun)

SONY may the FORCE be with you !! NOT

P.S.: I promisse to all PS3 buyers that i will try to talk about this matter with Mr.Rosevellt( i doubt that he will answer me or even listen , because this matter is TOP SECRET)[ dont take this seriously the man is dead for cist sake !! ]

[gatorayde]

QUOTE(chelfy @ Feb 28 2008, 06:14 PM)

Here is my very basic summary and opinion on PS3 vs 360.

The graphics and processing power between the 2 systems is small, not enough of a factor to justify one system over the other.  A new PC with 8800GT vid card will blow away both systems on graphics, call of duty 4 for instance.

The PS3 is more reliable, quiet, and overall a much better deal hardware wise (Wireless, bluray, internal ps).

The 360 has a better dashboard and much better online experience.  PS3's don't even come with a headset.

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My opinion, if you are a light gamer and home theater enthusiast reach for the PS3 for versatility.  
If you want the best online gaming experience and friends network get a 360.

Overall the "fun" factor for me is in the 360, and that is why I chose to sell my PS3.

Sure but a for a PC to match the performance of a ps3/360 @ 1080p with decent FPS would cost at least $1k, whereas for that price you can buy both for $1k. Just my 2 cents...

[Mr Invader]

QUOTE(gatorayde @ Feb 28 2008, 07:08 PM)

Sure but a for a PC to match the performance of a ps3/360 @ 1080p with decent FPS would cost at least $1k, whereas for that price you can buy both for $1k. Just my 2 cents...

The PC can do much more than a xbox 360 and PS3... just my 2 cents.

And what is with all of the "360 doomsday" posts on XB-S lately? Are the mods turning into PS3 fanboys or are you just flame baiting?

[Foe-hammer]

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This kind of temporal AA/blur is a very, very old technique, long before shaders. It's not an extra, it's a compromise: apparently they didn't have the resources to do 2xMSAA in a single 60Hz frame on the PS3, so they just render it raw and jitter the next frame for an amortized approximation.

The thing is, this trick only works for static scenes with a static camera, since it's stretching out the operation over several frames. Otherwise you tend to get a blurred mess.

the temporal AA effect work only with relative static scene (in this case some graphic element can have better AA than X360 version like on my photo) but with move scene they are no AA effect, just persistence effect (persistence is not really a sexy effect)
but without this the PS3 version would have no AA

They only thing that is in favor of the ps3, is it has better controls - due to the better placement/size of the L1 button.  The 360s bumper button just doesn't do as good.

Did they just say, "Superior online integration on the PS3"?  The whole article lost any creditability that it may have had.  To say that CoD4 online is better on the 360?  I find that very hard to believe, considering I have heard just the opposite by more then a few people who have tried both versions, and there conclusion is in extreme favor for the 360 version.  For example, they said at any given time there is more then triple the amount of people playing the 360 version.  Plus the ability to look up a players card in game, and have the option to mute them, among other things would suggest the opposite.

The funny thing is, the one game that they said looked unquestionably better on the 360 is the only game that looks exactly the same on both consoles.  And that game is assassins creed.

[Chancer]

QUOTE(Mr Invader @ Feb 29 2008, 06:39 AM)

And what is with all of the "360 doomsday" posts on XB-S lately? Are the mods turning into PS3 fanboys or are you just flame baiting?

 What would you prefer everything was blowing sunshine about the 360 or something a little controversial to discuss?
 I suspect the very reason this news was posted is because Xantium also thought it was fiction and also thought it may generate a worthy  interesting debate. That is what it is doing. These are forums after all. It would be so boring if everyone came on here and we all sat patting each other on the back about how great the 360 was, with no views (even if the person who wrote the article is off base)from all sides.
All this fanboy stuff is all rubbish. People should state their points from any side of the fence without accusations of "fanboy".
 Because somebody likes  something different, or has a view from a different perspective does not make it right for them to be called out as a "Fanboy". Isn't this what happens in school when Bullies attack something/somebody different to them.
 If you personally have an issue with a news post you would need to deal with it one to one with Admin.
 Personally I think the thread was going well. We don't want this degenerating into name calling, do we?

[SensualMango]

QUOTE(PerfectGun @ Feb 28 2008, 12:25 AM)

Completely subjective article and don't agree at all.  PS3 COD4 was a mess and you couldn't even get into a match until it was patched months later.  The controller blows but it does have a better D-Pad.

For the last time.  WHO GIVES, A FLYING FUCK ABOUT THE GOD DAMN D-PAD!!!?

[Chancer]

QUOTE(SensualMango @ Mar 2 2008, 08:39 AM)

For the last time.  WHO GIVES, A FLYING FUCK ABOUT THE GOD DAMN D-PAD!!!?

You mean you don't really care for it. Many people I know were brought up using it and still do.
Once more it is personal taste. Much the same as the original news post, you can't decide what other people like or dislike.

[chronno]

First I'd like to say I don't have a PS3 so I wouldn't know.

The PS3 has 9 processor cores.  6 are dedicated to graphics.  Why is their even a debate?  Shouldn't the PS3 be winning hands down?  If their is even a debate than Sony definitely did something wrong.

I presently have an xbox 360 with 23 games last count.  I like the controller better than I like the PS2 controller (same layout as the PS3 last I checked).  

I plan on getting a PS3 at some point but for a project I'm working on.  I want a PS3, Linux, Sage TV, and a USB cable adaptor (let me know if that won't work) for a cheap effective DVR/Media-center/BluRay player.

[bludhound]

QUOTE(chronno @ Mar 4 2008, 12:34 AM)

First I'd like to say I don't have a PS3 so I wouldn't know.

The PS3 has 9 processor cores.  6 are dedicated to graphics.  Why is their even a debate?  Shouldn't the PS3 be winning hands down?  If their is even a debate than Sony definitely did something wrong.

I presently have an xbox 360 with 23 games last count.  I like the controller better than I like the PS2 controller (same layout as the PS3 last I checked).  

I plan on getting a PS3 at some point but for a project I'm working on.  I want a PS3, Linux, Sage TV, and a USB cable adaptor (let me know if that won't work) for a cheap effective DVR/Media-center/BluRay player.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but not all the 6 available SPEs are dedicated to graphics, right? If that is true, the PS3 will only have one available PPE as compared to X360's 3, and it's a fact that the GPU in the X360 beats the one in the PS3 hands-down.

Ultimately, I feel the technical aspects of the consoles should be the last thing on our minds as consumers. Developers should be the ones worrying about that. If they really want to make a certain game for a system, they will be able to do it despite the technical limitations. Take No More Heroes on Wii as an example. What really matters for us is features, quality (previous problems like RROD aside) and games. In contrast to some consoles from some previous generations, this generation is seeing a healthy library of games and fanbases on all consoles.

Both systems have good exclusives, but Dead Rising (along with a number of upcoming horror games) and Gears of War were the final deciding factor for getting my X360. I got a Wii too, mainly for the Resident Evil franchise (0, 1, 2, 3, 4, VeronicaX, UC).

[twistedsymphony]

QUOTE(chronno @ Mar 3 2008, 11:34 AM)

I plan on getting a PS3 at some point but for a project I'm working on.  I want a PS3, Linux, Sage TV, and a USB cable adaptor (let me know if that won't work) for a cheap effective DVR/Media-center/BluRay player.

I have a SageTV box... I love the thing though mine runs on Windows XP x64 through a HTPC I built.

I don't see any real reason your project wouldn't work but I will warn you that USB based capture devices blow. You wont get enough bandwidth on them for HD capture and they typically utilize software based decoders (PCI based cards typically have a hardware base decoder). With that said I'm sure the CELL would have no problems crunching though MPEG2 but I would be weary of the fact that the GPU is disabled in Linux, I know SageTV does utilize the graphics card in my box and when I disabled it to test some stuff out it slowed down quite a bit and became laggy...

If and when you do this I'd be quite interested in the results. As for the cost I built my SageTV box without using any old components and I did it for under $600 and that included the SageTV license, remote, capture card, dvd burner, aluminum HTPC case and 400GB HDD. So, aside from the benefit of having a blu-ray player in the same box (though you'd have to reboot to use it) I don't see it as much of a cost savings overall.

[Nive]

QUOTE(SensualMango @ Mar 2 2008, 09:39 AM)

For the last time.  WHO GIVES, A FLYING FUCK ABOUT THE GOD DAMN D-PAD!!!?

Erm... have you ever tried an Beat em Up like DoA4? Or some Old-School-Arcade-Games? Or Oblivion? (Shortcuts?) Or GoW? (Select a weapon?)

Man... the D-Pad sucks pretty hard. BeU are almost horror, same @ XBL-Arcade. Even mainly "Analog-Stick-Games" like GoW oder Oblivion are affected.

It's a pain in the ass too select the proper Spell/Item in Oblivion.  I have no idea how often I switched to the Granades in GoW instead of Shotgun...