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chinchillanet

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December '06 Back Compat Update Officially Released
« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2006, 06:01:00 PM »

QUOTE(EugeneEW3RD @ Dec 15 2006, 10:59 PM) View Post

I'm happy for this update because I can finally play Buffy The Vampire Slayer & Shenmue II on my 360. I see they added Destroy All Humans,Evil Dead: Fistfull of Boomstick & Scarface, I'll have to goto Gamestop & see if they have a used copy of these games.



i have chaos bleeds and it worked already, but does suffer from slow down regularly
are you on about the other buffy game?
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KAGE360

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« Reply #31 on: December 16, 2006, 12:42:00 PM »

i wish they gave you the option to stretch these games.  of all the games i have that are BC half of them are not widescreen.
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Foe-hammer

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« Reply #32 on: December 16, 2006, 06:10:00 PM »

QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Dec 16 2006, 12:49 PM) View Post

i wish they gave you the option to stretch these games.  of all the games i have that are BC half of them are not widescreen.

They do if you have the vga cable, and your TV supports 1280x1024.  With 1280x1024 'standard' setting, it will stretch non-widescreen xbox games to fill the entire screen.  That is what i do.
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« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2006, 07:20:00 PM »

YAY!!!  I'm looking forward to finally being able to play Soul Calibur 2! biggrin.gif
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KAGE360

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« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2006, 09:32:00 AM »

QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Dec 16 2006, 08:17 PM) View Post

They do if you have the vga cable, and your TV supports 1280x1024.  With 1280x1024 'standard' setting, it will stretch non-widescreen xbox games to fill the entire screen.  That is what i do.


i could also switch my resolution to 480p and just play like that.  however while i dont mind the stretched image but i dont like the thought of my TV doing the upscaling like that.  i'll just manage with 4:3 on my WS TV
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Foe-hammer

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« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2006, 01:45:00 AM »

QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Dec 18 2006, 09:39 AM) View Post

i could also switch my resolution to 480p and just play like that.  however while i dont mind the stretched image but i dont like the thought of my TV doing the upscaling like that.  i'll just manage with 4:3 on my WS TV

Why would your TV be doing the upscaling?  The 360's video encoder does it on mine.
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« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2006, 09:32:00 AM »

QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Dec 19 2006, 03:52 AM) View Post

Why would your TV be doing the upscaling?  The 360's video encoder does it on mine.


the 360 will send/scale whatever resolution you set it to.  so if i set the 360 to 480p, then the 360 will be sending a 480p signal to my HDTV leaving the TV to do the scaling.
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Foe-hammer

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« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2006, 12:16:00 AM »

QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Dec 19 2006, 09:39 AM) View Post

the 360 will send/scale whatever resolution you set it to.  so if i set the 360 to 480p, then the 360 will be sending a 480p signal to my HDTV leaving the TV to do the scaling.

Still quite don't follow.  If you have an HDTV and set the 360's dash to 480p via component cables, then that is what you will get on your HDTV.  Are you saying that then your HDTV will scale that 480p signal to a 720p/1080i?  I didn't know that was possible for TV's to scale a 480p image to 720p/1080i.

The point i was trying to make was, if your HDTV supports vga and the different resolutions of the vga cable, then you can set it to a higher resolutions that supports 'standard' screen...of which will stretch non-widescreen original xbox games to fill your widescreen HDTV.  And by that the 360 does all the scaling, and your TV does not.
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« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2006, 06:12:00 AM »

unless his TV is a CRT... it is scaling the 480p image to 720p/1080...

DLP, LCD, Plasma, LCoS, etc. are all "fixed pixel" displays meaning they have to scale whatever signal they receive to their native resolution.

the reason you have the console do it instead of the TV is because the console will typically do a better job and introduce less lag... TV scalers are typically cheap introduce lag and muddy up the picture.
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KAGE360

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« Reply #39 on: December 20, 2006, 09:10:00 AM »

QUOTE(Foe-hammer @ Dec 20 2006, 02:23 AM) View Post

Still quite don't follow.  If you have an HDTV and set the 360's dash to 480p via component cables, then that is what you will get on your HDTV.  Are you saying that then your HDTV will scale that 480p signal to a 720p/1080i?  I didn't know that was possible for TV's to scale a 480p image to 720p/1080i.

The point i was trying to make was, if your HDTV supports vga and the different resolutions of the vga cable, then you can set it to a higher resolutions that supports 'standard' screen...of which will stretch non-widescreen original xbox games to fill your widescreen HDTV.  And by that the 360 does all the scaling, and your TV does not.


i got what you mean, no my TV doesnt support VGA.  im also wrong about the upscaling, i forgot it doesnt apply to CRTs.

QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Dec 20 2006, 08:19 AM) View Post

unless his TV is a CRT... it is scaling the 480p image to 720p/1080...

DLP, LCD, Plasma, LCoS, etc. are all "fixed pixel" displays meaning they have to scale whatever signal they receive to their native resolution.

the reason you have the console do it instead of the TV is because the console will typically do a better job and introduce less lag... TV scalers are typically cheap introduce lag and muddy up the picture.


thanks for the reminder.  does this only apply to a 480p signal or any resolution?  since it is said 480p/1080i, under the native resolutions.  would i be right in assuming that a 720p singla would be upscaled?
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