QUOTE(nickthegreat @ Aug 30 2006, 10:28 AM)

Saints:
Well I really hope the full game is a step above the demo:
Negatives:
Poor framerate,
Cars disappear in front of you,
Police couldn't catch you if they actually tried,
Missing the nice little touches like: boats, helicopters, planes and a general variety and the busy atmosphere that the GTA series has.
It thinks its cool...... god I hate the cut scenes.
Demo is just boring really.
Positives:
looks nice when its not jerky.
can shoot into cars.
nice explosions and fire effects.
funny sayings by people on the streets.
Just cause:
Negatives:
Can't shoot whilst in cars.
Bit boring in game characters
Weird pop up style graphics (look at the trees) and other glitches like grass showing through your car.
No option to turn off auto aim (but actually once you start playing with this in mind ie charging around like a mad man, the auto aim feature is surprisingly quite fun)
Positives:
Not a complete rip off - has its own take on the sandbox style.
Despite graphical glitches it still looks quite nice.
skydiving.
The size of the map
That fast boat.
Missions are quite fun - like the last car one.
Doesn't take itself too seriously.
Faster and better driving aspect of the game.
Id say they are both differently 'bad', not really good, certainly not to the tune of £50. Rent both, don't waste your money trying to decide which is 'better'.
Never yet had any frame issues.
Cars have not disappeared in front of me.
The missions are darn cool.
And the online multiplayer rocks.