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QUOTE(King_of_gotham @ Aug 5 2006, 08:55 AM)

One thing ive never understood, is how can the demo be 900mb and be so limited? whats the size of xbox dvd's? are the 4.7 gig? if so then does mean the demo is a 1/5 of the game? is it the games engine that takes up the majority of its size?

My take is that the game demos have to be made in the most critical time of the developement (in the end sprint), so they don't have the time to optimise the release and lots of obsolete junk is left there.

Also, many textures that are already there are used over and over in the other places, roads, water, ground, people and trees for example.

[King_of_gotham]

ahhhhhh i get it god i hope they sort out the frame rate, and for some stupid reason make the cars handle like PGR

[pingrr]

QUOTE(hamwbone @ Aug 3 2006, 11:14 PM)

"B what the hell is 60 bucks, i spent that filling up my car the past 5 days, and i hated driving it. at least this 60 $will last more then 5 days and be fun  =)

Exactly that is just a friday night at the bar.  I can give up one night of drinking to get a new game.  Plus with the game I will have somthing to show for my money the next day,

[Carlo210]

Didn't really like the game, but not everyone can.

[twistedsymphony]

QUOTE(DarkLabel @ Aug 4 2006, 12:45 AM)

Don't find this a valid excuse. Demos are put up for a taste or snapshot. I'm sure many people understand that it isn't supposed to be the final build but seriously, it feels like a let down compared to game in the past. I mean it feels like a "Been there, done that" kind of game with prettier graphics. When we want a snapshot, the developers must take these demos seriously, as if its the real deal. Honestly, I won't even buy a game now unless theres a demo or I rent it to get a feel of it. If your satisfied with what they delivered, than by all means, preorder it and get it on launch.

If it was the "real deal" the game would be released already. The reason you get the demo before the release is because the game isn't done yet. If you want a perfect demo you'll have to wait for the game to be released first.

... this kind of consumer thinking is the reason that Joe Gamer isn't allowed to attend video game conferences and play all the new demos for UNRELEASED games. Simply because they assume (rightly so apparently) that consumers don't understand what "unfinished product" means.

Personally I'd much rather get a demo weaks early and buggy as hell, at least it gives me a clear enough idea if it will be worth my money when it comes out... buying under the assumption that the obvious bugs will be fixed.

A lot of these demos on the marketplace are leftovers from game conferences. The Full Auto demo that was released on XBL and OXM shortly before the games release was from the Zero Hour event at the consoles launch 4 MONTHS prior, it most certainly didn't represent the latest and greatest they had to offer in terms of the games progress at the time. Same goes for Test Drive... and probably Saints Row

[King_of_gotham]

It was bad, but nowere near as bad as the getaway or saints row. i think i just got used to it after playing every gta title from 3 onwards to death.

ok, just realised why i got used to it, i was playing it on pc with mouse steer turned on.
 Left button for accel, right for brakes,  space for handbrake. and ofcrouse moved the mous to steer, worked out ok.

[GeToChKn]

What the demo isn't showing though is the multiplayer element that is supposed to be in there.  4 or 5 different game modes.  DM type modes.  Everyone running around in the city, shooting each other and stuff.  That's the real appeal of this game that GTA never touched on.