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[alsybub]

5 weeks 6 days 11 hours and 33.2 seconds.

But seriously there is no telling how long it's gonna take. It's not as straight forward as with previous generations. Also a hardware mod, as in an Xbox, is not neccessary. It's just a way of by-passing the on board BIOS and injecting a modified/homebrew BIOS which ignores the region encoding. Also it is possible to flash the on board TSOP by just soldering a couple of points and flashing it using an exploit and a prog like Evox.

Back on the point though, at the moment we haven't seen any real progress as far as hacking the 360 mobo is concerned. It could be a long time.

Just keep looking at devil360 (not the firmware mod)

Another thing that I feel we may find is that M$ will increasingly pressurise developers not to region lock their games since Sony has already stated that the PS3 will be entirely region free. Although on the flip side you could technically say the 360 is already region free and that PS3 may operate the same kind of system as M$ where the dev/publisher chooses whether or not to opt in or out of region control.

[alsybub]

360 restricts you to 480p, unless you have a VGA cable. So it probably isn't much different to RGB. Try getting a DVD upscaler like the Samsung HD-DVD850 (nothing to do with HDDVD). It's pretty cheap AND there's a simple code you enter to make it region free + enable component upscaled output.

If you're in the UK take a look here it's fantastic and outputs 480p, 720p, 768p and 1080i over HDMI and component with rca preouts for dts and 5.1

[CAjr45]

Region free games have to be region free from start

other than coding the game differently for us consoles, you gotta re-record all the audio files that in jap to US.

fonts have to changed.

reason why ps3 games are region free because on blu-ray they have enough space to have jap and US files and codes and the type of ps3 will tell which files to oad

[mitch2025]

QUOTE(CAjr45 @ Jun 15 2006, 05:05 AM)

reason why ps3 games are region free because on blu-ray they have enough space to have jap and US files and codes and the type of ps3 will tell which files to oad

i know for a fact that that has NOTHING to do with it because sony already said that BluRay will be for movies only

[CAjr45]

QUOTE(mitch2025 @ Jun 15 2006, 04:45 AM)

i know for a fact that that has NOTHING to do with it because sony already said that BluRay will be for movies only

mm didnt know so what ever

[mitch2025]

QUOTE(mikedavis2838 @ Jun 15 2006, 03:47 PM)

I think you have it backwards, MS said HD-DVD will be for movies only. Sony has said that all games will come on blu-ray to prevent piracy.

http://ps3.ign.com/a...6/696057p1.html

"March 14, 2006 - At its PlayStation Business Briefing 2006 held in Japan, Sony announced today its production plans for BD-ROM discs (Blu-ray). As it turns out, all PlayStation 3 games will ship on Blu-ray to help prevent piracy. In other words, no "cheap" DVD releases.. Of course, the system will still play PS2 and movies on DVD.'

i remember sony saying that bluray was only going to be for movies because they wanted to keep the cost of the games down and putting them on blueray discs would make them a little more expensive

[davinator456]

QUOTE(alsybub @ Jun 14 2006, 05:26 PM)

360 restricts you to 480p, unless you have a VGA cable.

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component? svideo?

[mitch2025]

QUOTE(mikedavis2838 @ Jun 15 2006, 03:52 PM)

LINK?

i dont memorize every link to everything i read. i would google but im one lazy ass SOB lol

[hamwbone]

QUOTE(davinator456 @ Jun 15 2006, 09:12 PM)

?
component? svideo?

that would be 480i over svideo. i think what he meant was scaling upwards...  

[NewGuyNeedzHelp]

i'm just waiting for something that'll allow the 360s to run different region games... are some of the asian games (not jp but asia in gener) region free? i've seen ppl sell region free games from HK on ebay, dunno if they are playable or not. and can US consoles run NTSC-J games?

[mgamer20o0]

just like everything sony says until it comes out no one knows if its true or not. m_hael a game developer here said it. i couldnt find the post but it was some time ago. i think he said something about the speed of the drive or something.

[Joergen]

For your movies you can always make a 1:1 copy onto a +DL disc and make the copy region free.

Several PS2 games were released on CD-ROM after the launch while Sonys main argument against the Dreamcast was the next-gen media and its crushing capacity advantage.

I'm pretty sure only a fraction of the games in the first few months will need so much space as to not fit on a DVD9. But Sony might be stupid enough to force bluray media for games at all cost (cost to the consumer that is) even if they'd fit on a CD-ROM (well, imagine some tetris game on bluray).

Btw one of the most successful recent games, Lego Starwars is on CD-ROM. And Ratchet and Clank 3 is less than 400MB on the disc (DVD). And the most idiotic of idiotisms was the whole "GTA:SA is almost too big for DVD", where GTA3 was 1.6GB, GTA:VC was 2.4GB and GTA:SA was 3.6GB actual.

Though as with CD-ROM vs DVD, DVD will be louder (higher rpm) than bluray and if any of the PS3 games come on DVD it will be a jet-engine just as the 360.

[alsybub]

I think m-hael said that buried somewhere in the legal shit about bluray it stated that the discs can only be used for film for something like the first 2 years. This is because if they store data (games) then the next logical step would be to have bluray burners which would increase piracy. So the idea is that it would slow this process down a little. If we can't legally put data on a bluray disc then we can't buy burners and companies can't sell them.

So it's anyones guess.

Going back to my comment about only outputing 480p without a VGA cable I am, of course, referring to DVD playback which will not allow upscaling due to there not being HDCP over component cables. I thought people would have guessed I meant that cos' that ws the context in which it was stated.

Oh well.