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[Mjkthirdeye]

I think its because the companies that make most of todays games, make them to make money. They just aren't making them as great because the main motivation is money, not a fantastic story or plot. They think they can just take any generic idea and throw money at it to improve the graphics and such and that will make it a great game. It just doesn't work that way. As with any great medium, such as music, movies, and such the thing that makes it great is pouring the heart and soul into it, not just throwing money at it. The movie industry nowadays is the exact same. It's a  "all about the money following the trend" scenario, not the "WOW this a fantastic story, but thats not what the people want because we want the money not the exuberent audience" scenario

[Master X]

The games that I enjoyed on N64 were Goldeneye, Conkey, and another racing game that I cant remember the name but RARE made it. Halo 2 is an awesome game I think and Halo 3 is going to be the next great game for next gen systems.

[deftonesmx17]

Most games are not as fun as they used to be for many reasons.

It seems like there are more movies and less gameplay in many games today.

Controls have become very complex, in many cases, this can have a negative impact on the gameplay.

Graphics have become one of the most important parts of games today.

The worst problem of all, copycat games.

[LowProfileWurm]

QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Jan 18 2006, 03:03 PM)

Most games are not as fun as they used to be for many reasons.

It seems like there are more movies and less gameplay in many games today.

Controls have become very complex, in many cases, this can have a negative impact on the gameplay.

Graphics have become one of the most important parts of games today.

The worst problem of all, copycat games.

I'll agree with these reasons, for the most part.

I think cutscenes can help push a story along as long as they are there to show part of the story that you wouldn't otherwise be able to incorporate into gameplay.  I always thought Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden had good cutscenes... especially after furious fights with bad guys.   "Thumb resters".  

Control schemes have become incredibly difficult to learn.  I think that's why I love Geo Wars so much.  3 control buttons.  It's also the reason I love driving games.  What's easier than brake and accelerate?  I'm not saying that I can't handle complex motions, it's just not so much fun memorizing button combos or configurations just to have a little "fun".  If I'm kicking ass on DOA online, then yeah, combos must be learned, but that's the nature of the beast.  

I'm still out to lunch on graphics.  I think they are important, second only to mechanics of gameplay (ie. control).  But the whore in me doesn't want to look at nasty images.  Especially not when I know it could be better.  

Unfortunately, I think the gaming industry has suffered the same affliction that ALL industries succumb to... the fast buck.  If they can't make the most money out of a safe formula, they don't want to invest.  Medicine, transportation, etc... all want to see immediate returns with a minimum amount of risk.  And unfortunately, that means the money-makers (FPS's, Racing, & Fighting) are all top-tier.   This also means that the innovative games are often crowded out by the over-hyped, over-advertised garbage that the big companies regurgitate.  Honestly, the only way I forsee this trend changing is with some kind of vehicle to allow independent developers access to many gamers without much investment.  And I believe that vehicle is XBLA.  If MS opens up the XBLA to allow "homebrew" games (but still certified by MS), I can easily see developer minds changing.  You can equate it to Hollywood.  They make crap.  But once in a while, an independent film comes out that really twists Hollywood's nipples.  And then the game starts over.  I want to see that happen in video games.  

I can't believe I just agreed with deftones...  

Oh, and  

[deftonesmx17]

 

At least you understood the points I was making. Graphics, I'm 100% happy with anything but jaggies and glitches.

[cyberg4]

To me it somewhat feels like that, but when you look at it, the whole case of the fun factor of games decreasing so much is age.  When you are 5-7 you will accept almost anything that comes your way, be it uniracers, or the donkey kong country series, (I really enjoyed a motorcycle game for the snes that was 3d, i think it was something like motoextreme FX).  While several still are good (mainly the 2D sidescrollers as we haven't seen many since the snes), a game like motoracer FX (not sure of the name) suck compared to today's standards, and are no fun at all.  As well there is the issue of money/number of games people buy.  for the SNES I got approximately 2 games per year, aquireing 8 or 9 over the console's lifetime.  with the N64 I increased the amount of games  bought annually to 3-4 ammassing a collection of 13-15 N64 games.  But come the Xbox, I had much more money which I could spend, (and I started to check out the previously played sections of some stores, and pawnshops) and ammassed a collection of 50 games for the original Xbox.  While in the SNES and N64 era I completely passed every game multiple times, I only completely passed a few games completely on the xbox. finally It is not like games today are worse than the ones on the N64 ors SNES, it's our expectations for them have gotten higher. It is not like Tony Hawk 7 (american wateland) is worse than Tony Hawk 1 when speaking in modern terms, a side by side comparison, but for it's time Tony Hawk 1 was awesome, and Tony Hawk 7 in it's time (now) is pathetic.  Games aren't getting worse, our expectations for them are getting higher.

[Optics2k3]

boy after reading this topic it kinda makes me laugh how true it is,everyone is mostly buying the 360 just because of graphics and such, and to be honest i will never mod it either because im actucally beating games instead of never touching them again if i copied them... must be a psycological thing.. but i will tell everyone something, i can remember from grade 6-11 playing diablo 2 and the expansion almost everyday for hours, and  even if i quit and a new patch came out, or i got banned or something i always went back, or bought a new copy... hell that game was like crack... just something about it i guess.. too bad they couldnt remake some of the old games and put it on 360 or something... but i think they should start to take ports from the pc and toss it on the new box... i kno half life 2 came out for xbox.. but if it was for 360 and had CSS or DODS hands down it would kill ps3 and revolution... lil side note but wasnt there a picture way back when 360 was first announced that valve was making hl3 for 360? dont call me nuts or luagh but it was in a picture... hopefully someone can link it... neways justm y 2 cents

[hamwbone]

-OT_

any body seen the that tshirt with the NES cartridge on it that has an arrow pointing the the opening and says - BLOW ME

i almost died when i saw that

[akyros]

doa4,quake4,pd0,pgr3,nfsmw,ridger6!

its not just us,geting bored of the same-o same-o,just look at the launch titles of the next gen.
a bunch of sequals,not a single new idea,(ok condemned is an exeption)

easy ideas for an easy new audience maybe?

[KLoNe]

You know what I think has killed gaming?

That work that you have heard so much over the years: "kiddie".

It is now 'uncool' to like Nintendo, as they are "kiddie". You are know uncool and "kiddie" if you don't own all the killing/bloody/sex/car games.

It's a real shame. I really hope BIG N can come through with the Revolution.