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[Carlo210]

Are you guys using:
A ) The HALO 2 profile that comes with the Xbox 360
B ) The HALO 2 profile that is downloadable on Xbox Live

An answer would be greatly appreciated...

It's a simple question, by the way.

[Foe-hammer]

I believe that if they are playing on live, halo 2 will auto patch with the new 360 halo 2 emu update.

[KAGE360]

yeah if they are playing online then that should have answered your question.  

as for me the game plays fine just like the original xbox and i played it enough to notice any small differences.  the only differences for me is that i had to turn the sensitivity down to the default and that the voices on the new head set seem a bit quieter, other then that its the same ol' halo 2 for me.

[Carlo210]

Oh yeah, my bad. Shoulda figured that.

Anyways, I hope Halo 2 works fine for me. I'll be spending much-obliged intimacy with it.

[ikecomp]

QUOTE(lonewolf210 @ Nov 30 2005, 09:14 PM)

just wondering if anyone can tell me wuts happening but every once in a while when i play HAlO 2 on my 360  I get something like a screen burn. the worst one that happened was a screen burn of backwash. I can't really call it a screen burn though because I didnt let it sit on the level and it went a way after a couple more games. oh and it only happens when i play live. Other wise it runs perfectly and the screen burn thing doesnt afffect play its just kinda annoying.

I had not noticed this until you said something. When playing for extended times on live it seems that a ghost image is left on the screen (maybe from a grenade flash or explosion). Its hardly noticable when playing on bright colorful stages but on dark shadow like stages it can be seen clearly if you take the time look and doesn't seem to go away until you exit the game and start over.

Hmmmm...

[dabigdilla]

on what kind of tv's?  and you can see it overlapping/underlying the map you're playing on at the time?  or is it in the menu after the game?

[ShadowElitePro]

This topic makes me sick. I hope I can still play Halo 2 good.  

[Flagg3]

QUOTE(ShadowElitePro @ Dec 1 2005, 06:11 PM)

This topic makes me sick. I hope I can still play Halo 2 good.  

Prepare to stay sick.  I am disgusted with MS right now.  How stupid is it to release a new Xbox and NOT release a Halo product for it?  Like it would kill them to recompile the game and throw in a couple of extra maps?  As it stands now, Halo 2 emulation is garbage.  

The brightness is screwy, the sound pops in and out, the microphones don't work properly, the game speed is way off and seems to randomly change on each new level, maps sometimes refuse to load, and of course the screen burn thing is just wonderful.

Free tip for MS.  You want to sell new systems, is it too much to ask for it not to be a downgrade from the old Xbox?  There are no games that are remotely in the same league as Multiplayer Halo 1 or 2 on the 360.  I bought 2 360's and a buttload of accessories to replace my Xbox's.   COD2 for some reason doesn't let you play split screen system link, Perfect Dark Zero runs like crap in split screen mode, and now Halo 2 is ruined.  

So until MS decides to fix Halo 2, I have to resort to using the old boxes to play multiplayer system link now.  Wonderful way to appease your base!  After the initial hysteria launch hysteria goes away, they are going to be hard pressed to get casual gamers to buy this system.  MS - Do yourselves a favor.  Either release Halo 2.5 for the Xbox 360 with improved graphics and a couple of extra maps and you'll sell a million systems.  Otherwise. just recompile the damn game and let people trade in old copies of Halo 2 for a 360 version.  It's either that or piss off the 10 million Halo 2 owners and turn your biggest supporters into angry 360 bashers .  Your choice.


Flagg

[Carlo210]

QUOTE(Flagg3 @ Dec 3 2005, 05:21 AM)

Prepare to stay sick.  I am disgusted with MS right now.  How stupid is it to release a new Xbox and NOT release a Halo product for it?  Like it would kill them to recompile the game and throw in a couple of extra maps?  As it stands now, Halo 2 emulation is garbage.  

The brightness is screwy, the sound pops in and out, the microphones don't work properly, the game speed is way off and seems to randomly change on each new level, maps sometimes refuse to load, and of course the screen burn thing is just wonderful.

Free tip for MS.  You want to sell new systems, is it too much to ask for it not to be a downgrade from the old Xbox?  There are no games that are remotely in the same league as Multiplayer Halo 1 or 2 on the 360.  I bought 2 360's and a buttload of accessories to replace my Xbox's.   COD2 for some reason doesn't let you play split screen system link, Perfect Dark Zero runs like crap in split screen mode, and now Halo 2 is ruined.  

So until MS decides to fix Halo 2, I have to resort to using the old boxes to play multiplayer system link now.  Wonderful way to appease your base!  After the initial hysteria launch hysteria goes away, they are going to be hard pressed to get casual gamers to buy this system.  MS - Do yourselves a favor.  Either release Halo 2.5 for the Xbox 360 with improved graphics and a couple of extra maps and you'll sell a million systems.  Otherwise. just recompile the damn game and let people trade in old copies of Halo 2 for a 360 version.  It's either that or piss off the 10 million Halo 2 owners and turn your biggest supporters into angry 360 bashers .  Your choice.
Flagg

Congratulations, you win minus 2 points.
You make no sense whatsoever - and I mean that.
1. Who thinks the Xbox 360 is a downgrade from the Xbox? Do you actually think that people would be astonished by the new Xbox if it's top-selling game was an updated Halo 2? Who would shell out 500 bucks for a game they already have, just with upgraded graphics? You don't go and say you want a new console to play old games better - if anything, you play the old games the way they were played on the previous console. MS is being generous by letting games support high-def and take advantage of the power to essentially get rid of framerate problems and jaggies.
2. Why would Bungie (MS doesn't make Halo games - you should know this, oh superior ranter) spend time 'fixing' Halo 2? By the way, your definition of 'fixing' is 'adding better graphics and and extra maps'. IF anything, Bungie is doing that and a whole lot more with Halo 3, so why don't you just wait - mr. Hardcore Halo fan. If bungie wasted their time in making Halo 2 look better and have more features (essentially 'fixing' it, right?), you would then be pissed off if Halo 3 is unfinished and doesn't seem as if all of Bungie's time was spent on it. Use your head.
3. Not many people have the problems you are having, except for the Xbox 360 mic-sync issue (making the mics quieter). By all means, just play Halo 2 on your old Xbox. If MS decided not to let Xbox 360 play Xbox1 games, would you be happier because you didn't have to think about 'ways they could've made Halo 2 even BETTER for the Xbox 360!!!'?
4. MS doesn't need a 'fixed' Halo 2 to sell systems. Every Xbox 360 on store shelves, well, aren't there anymore. Xbox 360 selled within hours in North America and within hours in Europe, so what makes you think that people are buying the Xbox 360 to play Halo 2 in 720p? You then bring up how 'casual gamers' wouldn't buy a 360 because there isn't an upgraded Halo 2.5. Well guess what, casual gamers don't have the money to pay for a new console and play an old game, nor would they give two shits about an upgraded game that they already own. Mind you that Halo 2 is already minorly 'upgraded' in a way that doesn't waste any developers' time. You want an upgraded Halo 2? Well, go buy a pc and play halo 1 and design a next-gen Halo 2 mod to serve your needs. You aren't gonna get useless crap on consoles.
5. Halo 2 fans aren't going to be dissapointed because Halo 2 isn't 'upworked'. They will be pleased to see that Bungie spent all their time on their NEXT Halo 3 game and not a year-old one that people are already happy with. IF anything, you should be asking MS for a Halo 2 patch to fix the problems you are having. Other than that, don't expect anyone to take your needs too seriously.

[Flagg3]

QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Dec 3 2005, 01:11 PM)

Congratulations, you win minus 2 points.
You make no sense whatsoever - and I mean that.
1. Who thinks the Xbox 360 is a downgrade from the Xbox? Do you actually think that people would be astonished by the new Xbox if it's top-selling game was an updated Halo 2? Who would shell out 500 bucks for a game they already have, just with upgraded graphics? You don't go and say you want a new console to play old games better - if anything, you play the old games the way they were played on the previous console. MS is being generous by letting games support high-def and take advantage of the power to essentially get rid of framerate problems and jaggies.

If you had ever tried to play Halo 2 on the 360, you would know that it plays like crap.  I would be thrilled if it played as well as it did on the old Xbox, it doesn't.  It plays much worse than on the original machine.  That's called a DOWNGRADE.

QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Dec 3 2005, 01:11 PM)

2. Why would Bungie (MS doesn't make Halo games - you should know this, oh superior ranter) spend time 'fixing' Halo 2?

Newsflash.  MS bought Bungie 5 years ago.  Bungie is a division of MS.  You should probably know this before making yourself sound like an idiot.

QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Dec 3 2005, 01:11 PM)

By the way, your definition of 'fixing' is 'adding better graphics and and extra maps'. IF anything, Bungie is doing that and a whole lot more with Halo 3, so why don't you just wait - mr. Hardcore Halo fan. If bungie wasted their time in making Halo 2 look better and have more features (essentially 'fixing' it, right?), you would then be pissed off if Halo 3 is unfinished and doesn't seem as if all of Bungie's time was spent on it. Use your head.

Dictionary Definition of fix:
1)To correct or set right; adjust
2)To restore to proper condition or working order

Why don't you try reading my post again?  It doesn't work properly, it's BROKEN.  If it worked properly, it would be fine.  Got news for you, you don't need the Halo 3 team to fix Halo 2.  Do you think they halted Halo 3 production to make the additional maps for Halo 2?  To create the Halo 2 emulation tweaks on the Xbox 360?  Heck, Halo PC wasn't even converted to PC by Bungie at all, it was done by Gearbox.  That's the beauty of owning a large software company, you have different dev teams, or you can outsource.  As I said before, all they need to do is recompile the code to run natively on the 360 and do a disc swap for people who request it.  If they chose to, they could do some graphics tweaks, add a few maps and sell it in stores if they wanted to rake in some cash instead.  Both of these projects could be done by ANOTHER team.  Try to let that sink in.

QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Dec 3 2005, 01:11 PM)

3. Not many people have the problems you are having, except for the Xbox 360 mic-sync issue (making the mics quieter). By all means, just play Halo 2 on your old Xbox. If MS decided not to let Xbox 360 play Xbox1 games, would you be happier because you didn't have to think about 'ways they could've made Halo 2 even BETTER for the Xbox 360!!!'?

Funny, I read a bunch of posts from people who are having these problems.  Know why?  Because the game doesn't work properly. Oh, and the only reason I own an original (unmodded) Xbox is to play Halo 2.  The only reason I bought 2 Xbox 360's was to play it with the improvements that they advertised.  If they didn't offer backwards compatibility, I would have waited until they released Halo 3.  I suspect that I would not be alone.

QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Dec 3 2005, 01:11 PM)

4. MS doesn't need a 'fixed' Halo 2 to sell systems. Every Xbox 360 on store shelves, well, aren't there anymore. Xbox 360 selled within hours in North America and within hours in Europe, so what makes you think that people are buying the Xbox 360 to play Halo 2 in 720p?

I'm assuming that "selled" is Carlo language for "sold out".

Umm, it sold out because a) Almost every new system sells out. and b) They released only 400,000 units in North America.  No major console has ever been released with such low numbers.  The Sega Dreamcast sold more units than Xbox 360 did on it's launch day.  It sold over 1.5 million units in North America in it's first 3 months, which is more than MS is estimating that it will ship to North America in the same time period.  The fact that you sell out at launch has absolutely nothing to do with how successful a system will ultimately be.

QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Dec 3 2005, 01:11 PM)

You then bring up how 'casual gamers' wouldn't buy a 360 because there isn't an upgraded Halo 2.5. Well guess what, casual gamers don't have the money to pay for a new console and play an old game, nor would they give two shits about an upgraded game that they already own. Mind you that Halo 2 is already minorly 'upgraded' in a way that doesn't waste any developers' time. You want an upgraded Halo 2? Well, go buy a pc and play halo 1 and design a next-gen Halo 2 mod to serve your needs. You aren't gonna get useless crap on consoles.

This might surprise you, but Halo is the franchise game for the Xbox platform.  There is a reason why new Nintendo systems always launch with a Mario game.  If you don't understand the importance of releasing a franchise game at launch, then I'm not about to explain it to you.

QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Dec 3 2005, 01:11 PM)

5. Halo 2 fans aren't going to be dissapointed because Halo 2 isn't 'upworked'. They will be pleased to see that Bungie spent all their time on their NEXT Halo 3 game and not a year-old one that people are already happy with. IF anything, you should be asking MS for a Halo 2 patch to fix the problems you are having. Other than that, don't expect anyone to take your needs too seriously.

Again, you don't seem to grasp the concept that you don't need to slow progress on Halo 3 to fix Halo 2.  Yes, a patch would be fine, but the problems are fundamentally attributable to the fact that emulation is always going to give you something that is less than perfect.  The fact remains that playing Halo 2 on an Xbox 360 is inferior to playing it on an old Xbox.  

If things remain as it stands now, The Xbox 360 will not have a playable Halo product until Halo 3 launches.  I don't think they are going to beat the PS3 with games like Kameo and Perfect Dark Zero.  But that's just my opinion.  Obviously, I don't know as much as you do.  With almost 3,000 posts in 6 months, you would never be one to talk out of your ass or anything.

Flagg

[ShadowElitePro]

This doesnt sound good at all!    Ill have to play Halo 2 on the 360 beacuse I dont have my xbox anymore. I hope the make a patch for the emulation.

[KAGE360]

QUOTE(ShadowElitePro @ Dec 4 2005, 10:42 AM)

This doesnt sound good at all!    Ill have to play Halo 2 on the 360 beacuse I dont have my xbox anymore. I hope the make a patch for the emulation.

i wouldnt worry about it at all.  there will be people who like to exagerate like Flagg and there will be others with real legit issues.  like i said, halo 2 plays great on my 360, even better then it does on the xbox.  the texture pop-in is greatly enhanced because of the faster disk drive and the graphics are noticably sharper and crisper because of the added AA and resolution.  even on my regular TV my halo2 and sony loving little brother (who probably put more hours in halo 1 and 2 then everyone in this forum put together) notices a huge difference and hes blind to graphics half the time.  like i said the only difference for me is the sensitivity and the volume of the voices on LIVE.  other then that everything else works great if not better then on the xbox.  

also Flagg not going to get into a flaming war with you but you shouldnt blame MS for giving us somethng that isnt needed, got more then we all expected, and works great anyways.  i never understood why people got next gen systems to play last gen games.  MS went through hoops to get this BC to work and it works better then many have expected with visual enchancements across all games.  and yet there are people like you who are never happy.  there are bound to be slight alterations when it comes to emulation, there always has been, and for someone who has all the answers you seem to understand little about emulation.  however instead you rather bungie take time and man hours away from an actual next gen project to please those who cant live without halo.  your dilusional if you think that 360 wouldnt have sold just as well if halo 2 wasnt BC because there was a huge demand before the final list of BC games was even released.  you are mistaken on many things only because of your personal issues with your games, ill excuse you for that, but you should remember that BC isnt needed, and MS didnt need to do anything let alone how much they have done for this feature.  think about the bigger picture before you bitch next time unless you need halos and drama in your life.

[ShadowElitePro]

Thanks now I feel a little better. lol Ya I heard the graphics in SP are better. Ill just have to wait and see.

[ShadowElitePro]

Wow I can smell it already. Its a flame war. Well everyone just calm down. Flagg are you sure that he has 2 accounts? I dont think there the same people.

[mlmadmax]

When playing halo 2 on my 360 I have had all the aforementioned problems. I am playing on a 55inch Mitsubishi in 1080i, and while there is a noticeable improvement in graphics that is ruined by slowdowns, weird ghosting of images, and the rest.

It just sucks that it doesn’t work correctly and someone should address these issues. I have only had the ghosting effect in single player but the slowdown and speedup issues have ruined multiplayer and I have been forced to play halo 2 on my original Xbox.
Whoever wrote the emulator should fix these issues. I started a thread a while back about who I should call at MS to let people know about these problems so they could be fixed and no one seemed to know. Does anyone know who to contact now?

I have also read of many people having the same issues with halo 2 on the 360 in multiple forums so it is not an isolated incident.

Just my 2 cents