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[esc1]

Not so much good news for those w/o hdtv.  Could play on my monitor, but that's not very comfortable.  I was gonna get the 360 is they had graphics improvements.

[jizmo]

QUOTE(esc1 @ Nov 10 2005, 10:15 AM)

Not so much good news for those w/o hdtv.  Could play on my monitor, but that's not very comfortable.  I was gonna get the 360 is they had graphics improvements.

Even with my old 480i 32" widescreen all the jaggies in Halo were really visible on it, although somewhat blurred. With old tv sets x360 might bring you a Halo that's initially rendered in 720p+AA and then interpolated in video hardware down to 480i/p. It'll still look nicer.

QUOTE(thax @ Nov 10 2005, 08:50 AM)

One of the greatest thing is that splitscreen will be much more playable, with 640 in splitscreen objects are difficult to discern. In 720 there is at least a 3x resolution increase meaning even with half the screen you have more pixels than fullscreen on the original xbox.

On old Halo (and other games with 4xsplitscreen) you had a VGA 640x480 split to four screens, QVGA 320x240 each. With 720p 4xsplit you'll have 1280x720 split to four screens, making the resolution in 640x360 each of them.

You'll have almost the same resolution for that little view in 720p Halo that you had in the single player fullscreen mode. Definitely crisp enough to see where you're going

[stezo2k]

amazing news, great to hear it confirmed

i'd like to see sony beat that, the backwards compatability on the ps2 was awful

cant wait to see the difference

[AnC]

QUOTE(Owtlaw333 @ Nov 10 2005, 04:14 AM)

I second that.  Inverted veiwing sucks HUGE ass for FPS.  Inversion belongs in airplanes.
Is it Nov 22 yet?!?! lol

ever heard of changing Control settings.. ?? jeeze some people..

[corkinator]

QUOTE(stezo2k @ Nov 10 2005, 09:43 AM)

amazing news, great to hear it confirmed

i'd like to see sony beat that, the backwards compatability on the ps2 was awful

cant wait to see the difference

They did only use a simpe texture filter, but it was 100% compatible with PS games wasn't it? 360 won't be. And I don't see companies, especially EA Sports adding hi res and/or frame rate improvements.

[twistedsymphony]

QUOTE(esc1 @ Nov 10 2005, 02:15 AM)

Not so much good news for those w/o hdtv.  Could play on my monitor, but that's not very comfortable.  I was gonna get the 360 is they had graphics improvements.

Well even without an HDTV set you still get AA... Which is an enormous improvment...

Not to mention Halo 1 now supports Widescreen (which it didn't before) which means that it has an even GREATER FOV then it did before. Even if you don't have a widescreen set you can play it in letterbox and get the extra benefit.

Trust me even without the resolution increase the other things they're adding to the game graphics will definitely be noticeable and a treat for the eyes.


Here's hoping this kind of improvement isn't limited to just Halo  

QUOTE(corkinator @ Nov 10 2005, 08:23 AM)

They did only use a simpe texture filter, but it was 100% compatible with PS games wasn't it? 360 won't be. And I don't see companies, especially EA Sports adding hi res and/or frame rate improvements.

No it wasn't 100%... they SAID IT WAS but there was a fairly substantial list of games that didn't work properly with it. But you know it's Sony so everything they say is Gospel.

This post has been edited by twistedsymphony: Nov 10 2005, 02:18 PM

[jizmo]

I made a conceptual screenshot of how much detail would there be in AA 720p four player mp screen on x360:

http://tiny url.com/7wngr    (take out the space)

If your screen is big enough, having a quick deathmatch with four friends on one x360 and HDTV (or a projector) is now officially possible. Really nice, Bungee, really nice

This post has been edited by jizmo: Nov 10 2005, 02:41 PM

[thax]

QUOTE(jizmo @ Nov 10 2005, 02:43 PM)

I made a conceptual screenshot of how much detail would there be in AA 720p four player mp screen on x360:

http://tiny url.com/7wngr    (take out the space)

If your screen is big enough, having a quick deathmatch with four friends on one x360 and HDTV (or a projector) is now officially possible. Really nice, Bungee, really nice

Wow, if that screenshot is anything close to what it will look like I would be super happy.

Now I know what Ken Kutaragi was talking about when he said xbox 1.5, we are getting an xbox 1.5 plus an xbox 360 all in one package.

[Ozy]

QUOTE(Owtlaw333 @ Nov 10 2005, 04:14 AM)

I second that.  Inverted veiwing sucks HUGE ass for FPS.  Inversion belongs in airplanes.

Inverts are great, it means you can seamlessly go from plane to ground firefight without changing your controllers.

If you can't handle inverts then just change your controlls.
I am from the goldeneye generation and invert is how I grew up with FPS.

[jizmo]

QUOTE(thax @ Nov 10 2005, 09:15 PM)

Wow, if that screenshot is anything close to what it will look like I would be super happy.

The image is sized 1280x720, which is the x360's 720p resolution and it's constructed of four PC Halo screens, which are resized to half, giving them 2xAA effect. The Halo we'll see on 22th *will* be very similar to this concept screen, or then it isn't real 720p.

Watch the image on your LCD TV or projector and you'll get a pretty good idea how sharp and playable it'll really look, when Xbox's Halo in 480p/i 4xmp is completely smudged and unplayable.

Now I have the urge to put together a similar 720p HDTV sample video from four 480p video streams. Anyone know where to get crisp Halo movie clips in 640x480?

[thejt]

QUOTE(AnC @ Nov 10 2005, 01:51 PM)

ever heard of changing Control settings.. ?? jeeze some people..

Or permanantly inverting your thumbsticks  Im a invert and I finally got sick of always having to switch to it cuz Im the only one I know; so I just reversed the thumbsticks and voila.  Now my friends cant use MY controller unless they switch.  Its a beautiful thing!

Here's a link on how to do it to a s-type.  Its a LE crystal controller so it looks a little different being white but its all the same

Inverted S-Type

Weve done the same with a 360 controller to and it will be on the 360 page.

This post has been edited by thejt: Nov 11 2005, 03:07 AM

[Kernal69er]

who cares

[Owtlaw333]

QUOTE(AnC @ Nov 10 2005, 03:51 AM)

ever heard of changing Control settings.. ?? jeeze some people..

Goldeneye didn't have that option dipshit.  Jesus fuckin' Christ, some people...

QUOTE(Ozy @ Nov 10 2005, 09:32 AM)

Inverts are great, it means you can seamlessly go from plane to ground firefight without changing your controllers.

Or just have the controlls individually set for each scenario(sp?) (ie: BF2 on PC you can set controlls for foot, vehicle, helicopter, and plane)

This post has been edited by Owtlaw333: Nov 11 2005, 10:52 AM

[KAGE360]

QUOTE(Kernal69er @ Nov 10 2005, 10:27 PM)

<_< who cares

its funny how you question why we care enough to discuss it in this topic but you care enough to be a gem enough that you take the time out of your life to post in here.  :rolleyes:

QUOTE(Owtlaw333 @ Nov 11 2005, 04:59 AM)

Goldeneye didn't have that option dipshit.  Jesus fuckin' Christ, some people...
Or just have the controlls individually set for each scenario(sp?) (ie: BF2 on PC you can set controlls for foot, vehicle, helicopter, and plane)

and i dont remember goldeneye only being invert, i cant stand invert controls and i loved goldeneye.  if i push up i was to look up damn it and it being invert does nothing but get me killed.  

[dmitri]

I think the real question is, will Xbox 360 play the original wolfenstein?

Because that game rocks so hardcore, even though the graphics, physics and environment suck ass compared to next gen, I refuse to play much better games like perfect dark.

And when is Counterstrike going to work with 360??

These are the important questions people!!!