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[miggidy]

QUOTE(jaskerzada006 @ Oct 21 2005, 10:57 PM)

Is it possible some don't know what Jaggies are?

[jdsony]

Ummm...aliasing might be a little less noticeable in 480i on an HDTV but it's still noticeable being played on a HDTV. Being an LCD doesn't help any either. Playing in 480i on a SDTV is what hides the jaggies. The systems are more likely set up displaying 480p which is then scaled by the LCD TV.

[jdsony]

hmm can't seem to edit my post. I also find it strange that some people find the games amazing while others say they could be done on the Xbox. I think this is partly due to expectations. Anyone who says the games can be done on the current hardware are completely blind. Sure they could be done on current hardware but not to the same standards. If your not amazed by the graphics obviously you were expecting more. If you are impressed you were either expecting less or expecting what you saw.

One thing I would like to see is more screenshots of actual gameplay camera angles.A movie camera angle almost always makes a game look better. Some of the games are showing actual gameplay while others are still showing ingame cutscenes or replay views which while the graphics will be the same they are still misleading and not representitive of what playing the game is like.

[HMAWL411]

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I'm still sticking with the fact that i was playing on 720p, and i had it verified by one of the employees.

seriously, how often do wal-mart employes know what their talking about when it comes to the electronics department. once in a while somebody will be educated in techinology but it is rare.

[Carlo210]

QUOTE(HMAWL411 @ Oct 22 2005, 09:21 PM)

once in a while somebody will be educated in techinology but it is rare.

[georaldc]

Well, my brother did say that he got to check the TV settings and they were using component cables, with the x360 set to 720p within the dashboard. We'll just have to wait for these games to go gold since they are afterall, older-build demos.

[Deftech]

[oceancube]

well i just got back from my superwalmart down the street and i was shocked they had an xbox360, all i can say is wow, i spent 1hr there playing the demo call of duty and it was amazing, the employee there let us fiddle with the xbox settings and after a few tweeks we got it on hd, looked fuzzy when i got there and after making those few settings, wow, it makes a total difference, cod was the best, kong was kindy flaky as i didn't like it at all, and kameo looked good but not my type of game, as for cod you will be surprized at the amazing detail they put in this game, the smoke effects are freaking awsome, and the game is just 100%... i cant wait to get it home and spend hours playing it on my new 32 hitachi lcd screen, the next gen system is 30 days away.........AWSOME!!!!

[lex luther]

QUOTE(Deftech @ Oct 22 2005, 09:07 PM)

played 360 at walmart, I was in heaven with CoD 2!

[Deftech]

nothing, being a fairy and morphing is 2 Nintendo'ish for me. I don't know how else to explain it.

It looked great, the artwork was like no other. But as for the game itself, :puke

[lex luther]

QUOTE(Deftech @ Oct 22 2005, 10:18 PM)

nothing, being a fairy and morphing is 2 Nintendo'ish for me. I don't know how else to explain it.

[Carlo210]

I'm still not set on which game I'm gonna get.

[Deftech]

QUOTE(lex luther @ Oct 22 2005, 10:51 PM)

a fairy lol    your crazy lol

[KAGE360]

over the last 2 days i have been to 3 different walmarts all with the 360 kiosk.  they were all different and only shows how much the calibration makes the difference.

the first one that deftech and i saw yesterday was great at the time but horrible compared to the two i saw today.  

on the first kiosk:

i was able to see what some people here were talking about when it came to the jaggies.  in king kong especially the jaggies were huge and made the character models look like they were constructed out of lego blocks.  of the three games, CoD2 suffered the least amount of jaggies and still impressed.  kameo looked like it had great art style and i could see how minus the jaggies it could almost live up to pixars movies.  other then the jaggies, we also noticed that the games were letter boxed and the brightness/contrast/sharpness was cranked real high which didnt seem right.  walking away i was still impressed but also puzzled.  did any of you people complaining or worried actually think that MS would let software release looking that bad??  and wasnt it totally obvious that there was NO AA being used at all, and that all the vids in the demo were atleast 2 months old meaning that the build from the game were probably also that old??  seconds after seeing the first game i knew that AA wasnt in effect and that the game would look 10 times better then what was being shown.

on the second kiosk that i saw this morning:

i didnt even expect to see a 360 at this walmart as it wasnt there wednesday but i was surprised.  i of course gave it a try and noticed many things instantly.  the games werent letter boxed, the brightness/sharpness/contrast was toned down (though still too high IMO) and the jaggies were almost non-existant.  all 3 of the games looked gorgeous and i was really impressed with king kong in particular.  yes its a cross-generation game but the environments and the t rex made my jaw drop.  kameo was like i expected and looked great, nice colors, great animation, and an attention to detail that was a pleasure to look at.  CoD2 was nice and sharp looking (you should see the detail that they cram in every little object), can not wait to get my hands on this game now.  the game ran so smooth and never even hiccuped once.  the difference between the first kiosk and this one was the difference between a game on the ps2 and a game on xbox (in other words monumental).  

after school work today i found the third kiosk:

i was happy to find that the game was true wide screen and not letterboxed.  however there were jaggies far more apparent then the second kiosk (not nearly as bad as the first though).  the sharpness/contrast/brightness was again high and it only showed how much the calibration of the monitor made a difference of how the game looked.  

i played for a good time at all 3 walmarts and have seen the good and the bad and honestly im not worried at all.  the games looked gorgeous when displayed right and even without AA the jaggies were almost void.  the funny thing is no matter what walmart i played at while playing it drew a crowd on the graphics alone and i was happy to see people all around me googling over the graphics when they dont even know how much better its going to look.  ive been called a fanboy among other things but my observation isnt biased or influenced at all.  this only puts to rest the issues about the jaggies.  and to those who were complaining, again realize what is and isnt being done and take that into consideration.  though i do agree that MS should be more careful when marketing their machine and games, when displayed right you can see the vision that im sure they intened.

[incognegro]