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Kevin Sydney

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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2009, 08:42:00 PM »

QUOTE(BennyBou @ Nov 16 2009, 07:38 PM) *

Nice find!!! Is there an alternative point on the board? Soldering on a TSOP chip leg is not that easy to do.


ive only done it a couple times but it should be fairly easy, the solder tends to flow to each leg, you have to put on a LOT of solder to create a bridge between the pins.
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2009, 08:44:00 PM »

QUOTE(Evi1d33d @ Nov 16 2009, 10:35 PM) View Post

And M$ can just add a write check and ban who ever write protect their NAND.

So if you are not banned before then you'll guaranty a ban now. Well at least your HDD is good.


Well, I don't think doing this mod violate Xbox Live Terms of service. It voids your warranty for sure but it does not allow you to run backups or cheat on Xbox Live. Would MS really ban people for blocking write on the Nand?
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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2009, 08:44:00 PM »

im guessing this doesnt work on already banned and used boxes?
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2009, 08:46:00 PM »

1) What kind of changes and updates affect the NAND?
2) Would it only be the NXE updates?
3) When should it not be protected? Should we be leaving the switch ON (Write protected) most of the time? or OFF?
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Kevin Sydney

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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2009, 08:48:00 PM »

QUOTE(skyliner99 @ Nov 16 2009, 07:44 PM) View Post

im guessing this doesnt work on already banned and used boxes?


no.

QUOTE(DarkEvilKen @ Nov 16 2009, 07:46 PM) View Post

1) What kind of changes and updates affect the NAND?
2) Would it only be the NXE updates?
3) When should it not be protected? Should we be leaving the switch ON (Write protected) most of the time? or OFF?


I believe the only time you would need write protection off would be for dashboard updates.
It should only be turned on when your first connection to xbox live, that way if your banned, it wont be able to disable your hard drive.
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BennyBou

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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2009, 08:49:00 PM »

QUOTE(skyliner99 @ Nov 16 2009, 10:44 PM) View Post

im guessing this doesnt work on already banned and used boxes?


If you see the message on your Xbox that you have been banned it means that your Nand has been modified. I wonder if anyone who had a nand backup of their current kernel just before they got banned could restore it using the JTAG hack to remove the HDD crippling flag in the Nand and recover HDD install function.
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2009, 08:54:00 PM »

How simple, why haven't other people figured this out before?
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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2009, 08:56:00 PM »

QUOTE(BennyBou @ Nov 16 2009, 09:49 PM) View Post

If you see the message on your Xbox that you have been banned it means that your Nand has been modified. I wonder if anyone who had a nand backup of their current kernel just before they got banned could restore it using the JTAG hack to remove the HDD crippling flag in the Nand and recover HDD install function.

That's exactly the point of backing it up, so they can restore it.

What we need is someone with a NAND backup who subsequently got banned.  Restore the NAND, ground WP and then see what happens when Live tries to ban them again.  Since they have a NAND backup and are already banned, they'd have nothing to lose.
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« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2009, 08:57:00 PM »

QUOTE(BennyBou @ Nov 16 2009, 07:49 PM) View Post

If you see the message on your Xbox that you have been banned it means that your Nand has been modified. I wonder if anyone who had a nand backup of their current kernel just before they got banned could restore it using the JTAG hack to remove the HDD crippling flag in the Nand and recover HDD install function.

I thought restoring a backup of the nand after beind banned would already lift the HDD crippling. I would like to see someone connect to XBL with this mod and see MS try to write to it LMAO
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« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2009, 08:59:00 PM »

Great find but this just seems riskier than firmware modding. Who says you could only get banned on startup anyway ? Im sure plenty of people have been disconnected mid session.
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Kevin Sydney

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« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2009, 08:59:00 PM »

QUOTE(IamReptar @ Nov 16 2009, 07:54 PM) View Post

How simple, why haven't other people figured this out before?


because the previous ban waves never disabled the hard drive.
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« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2009, 09:00:00 PM »

QUOTE(IamReptar @ Nov 16 2009, 09:57 PM) View Post

I thought restoring a backup of the nand after beind banned would already lift the HDD crippling

Yeah, but this is a hell of a lot simpler than doing everything it takes to actually read/write the NAND.
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« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2009, 09:02:00 PM »

QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 17 2009, 04:56 AM) View Post

That's exactly the point of backing it up, so they can restore it.

What we need is someone with a NAND backup who subsequently got banned.  Restore the NAND, ground WP and then see what happens when Live tries to ban them again.  Since they have a NAND backup and are already banned, they'd have nothing to lose.


I dont think LIVE will try and ban them again since im sure it has already collected all the important info such as console ID, serial number and maybe even mac address. If your banned you could bet that they have blocked any console with matching information from signing in.
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« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2009, 09:04:00 PM »

QUOTE(tomgreen99200 @ Nov 16 2009, 09:59 PM) View Post

Great find but this just seems riskier than firmware modding. Who says you could only get banned on startup anyway ? Im sure plenty of people have been disconnected mid session.

Doesn't seem risky to me.  Maybe risky if you haven't already been flagged for a ban, but I'm going on the assumption that currently they're able to nail us all, it's just a matter of time.  I'm convinced my console is flagged, and I'm dying to download Sgt. Pepper's tomorrow--this would come in quite handy.  It would be nice to think that if I am destined to be banned, at least I can prevent my console from ever knowing about it.
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« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2009, 09:05:00 PM »

QUOTE(tomgreen99200 @ Nov 16 2009, 10:59 PM) View Post

Great find but this just seems riskier than firmware modding. Who says you could only get banned on startup anyway ? Im sure plenty of people have been disconnected mid session.


Well, as long as you're connected to live (while you're still not banned) keep write protect ON. If you would want to do updates; download it off the site, burn it, and do it through disc install offline (with write protect OFF) and not through xbox live.
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