Topic: Prevent HDD Crippling - NAND write protect diagram (Read 1081 times)

Xbox-Scene · « **on:** November 16, 2009, 07:58:00 PM »

Prevent HDD Crippling - NAND write protect diagram
Posted by XanTium | November 16 21:58 EST | News Category: Xbox360

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From eurasia.nu:

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GodzIvan strikes again, this time with a diagram which simply write protects the NAND flash in the Xbox 360 by connecting WP to ground pin (if the flash type has different pinout, just find the datasheet to locate WP). This modification does not stop the ban from M$, but it prevents deletion of the HD installation certificates required by games which means you can still install them on the hard drive. In order to update the kernel this mod must be disabled; a simple switch solution comes to mind.
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News-Source: eurasia.nu

tommasi · « **Reply #1 on:** November 16, 2009, 08:03:00 PM »

anyone tried this yet??

ideas_man69 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 16, 2009, 08:04:00 PM »

this is awesome.. after xtreme LT comes out, i'll flash my drive and then do this. ill install a little switch on the back of my console.

sofa king dumb · « **Reply #3 on:** November 16, 2009, 08:10:00 PM »

awesome thanks GodzIvan

thought this was an odd feature to be banned in the first place. is it needed to install dlc games like gta iv:new edition or something?

DarkEvilKen · « **Reply #4 on:** November 16, 2009, 08:13:00 PM »

Let me get this straight. Even after being banned (HDD crippled already). If I were to ground the WP pin, I would be able to install and load games from te hdd?

There would be no problems moving the HDD to another console without the save/profile to be corrupted.

Thanks in advance

Kevin Sydney · « **Reply #5 on:** November 16, 2009, 08:14:00 PM »

ill definitely be doing this modification when the next ixtreme comes out.

banned from xbox live for modfication, w/e... but disabling my hardware...not cool.

QUOTE(DarkEvilKen @ Nov 16 2009, 07:13 PM)

Let me get this straight. Even after being banned (HDD crippled already). If I were to ground the WP pin, I would be able to install and load games from te hdd?

There would be no problems moving the HDD to another console without the save/profile to be corrupted.

Thanks in advance

no. this modification has to be done BEFORE your banned.
grounding that pin enables write protection, which prevents hard drive installs being disabled when you are banned from xbox live.

DarkEvilKen · « **Reply #6 on:** November 16, 2009, 08:21:00 PM »

Thanks a lot. Thats what it seemed like. Write Protect is active when pin is low. I'll also link it through a DIP switch.

Was hoping for a solution for the already crippled consoles.

This post has been edited by DarkEvilKen: Nov 17 2009, 04:23 AM

whaevr · « **Reply #7 on:** November 16, 2009, 08:25:00 PM »

So if you were to do this to a new xbox (unbanned) and it gets hit next ban wave you'll be able to transfer the hard drive to another xbox without it saying all your saves have been corrupted.

Right?

And you'll still be able to play/install games on the hdd on the banned xbox

Darn too bad its a little to late for a lot of people (including me) but a great discovery none the less.

kohr · « **Reply #8 on:** November 16, 2009, 08:27:00 PM »

Interesting.

So just add a little toggle switch in between, so you can update firmware? But now what if you get banned while the switch is off, while updating firmware?.... isn't that possible?

whaevr · « **Reply #9 on:** November 16, 2009, 08:33:00 PM »

QUOTE(kohr @ Nov 17 2009, 04:27 AM)

Interesting.

So just add a little toggle switch in between, so you can update firmware? But now what if you get banned while the switch is off, while updating firmware?.... isn't that possible?

Disconnect your xbox from the internet when you update the firmware?...

That way you can have the switch in off and still update it...

The certs dont get deleted until your banned, which happens when your try and connect to xbox live.

At least thats my take on it.

M0t0rPen1s · « **Reply #10 on:** November 16, 2009, 08:33:00 PM »

Yeah Go , Cripple the weaklings at Microsoft !!!

Woah ! that sounded HARSH !

Evi1d33d · « **Reply #11 on:** November 16, 2009, 08:35:00 PM »

And M$ can just add a write check and ban who ever write protect their NAND.

So if you are not banned before then you'll guaranty a ban now. Well at least your HDD is good.

Kevin Sydney · « **Reply #12 on:** November 16, 2009, 08:37:00 PM »

QUOTE(Evi1d33d @ Nov 16 2009, 07:35 PM)

And M$ can just add a write check and ban who ever write protect their NAND.

So if you are not banned before then you'll guaranty a ban now. Well at least your HDD is good.

thats what i was thinking.

BUT, what you could do is set your console to auto login to xbox live then have a micro controller setup to set the write protection pin low for the first couple seconds, then set it back to high after you've signed in.

that way you can do system updates without having to flip a switch, and if your banned you'll see it right away and it will be automatically prevent hard drive disabled.

BennyBou · « **Reply #13 on:** November 16, 2009, 08:38:00 PM »

Nice find!!! Is there an alternative point on the board? Soldering on a TSOP chip leg is not that easy to do.

whaevr · « **Reply #14 on:** November 16, 2009, 08:38:00 PM »

QUOTE(Evi1d33d @ Nov 17 2009, 04:35 AM)

And M$ can just add a write check and ban who ever write protect their NAND.

So if you are not banned before then you'll guaranty a ban now. Well at least your HDD is good.

Pfff they'd only do that if this info was displayed publicly where they could easily reach it. Otherwise how would they know?

....wait

Dammit >.<

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