Print

[torne]

QUOTE(GandyMan @ Dec 12 2007, 04:31 AM)

Can you link me to a few of these TUT's that say they are the same.

He means that some tutorials state the 1BL key. Robinsod has chosen not to include it in the flash tool itself to protect himself from legal challenges, but some tutorial authors have decided to publish it.

If you have an xbox which you can exploit to get the CPU key, you can dump the 1BL while you're doing that, and all you need then is to know where in the binary the 1BL key is. (or just reverse it as it's quite short *grin*) So, publishing it isn't really necessary.

[GandyMan]

QUOTE(torne @ Dec 12 2007, 01:59 PM)

He means that some tutorials state the 1BL key. Robinsod has chosen not to include it in the flash tool itself to protect himself from legal challenges, but some tutorial authors have decided to publish it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

If you have an xbox which you can exploit to get the CPU key, you can dump the 1BL while you're doing that, and all you need then is to know where in the binary the 1BL key is. (or just reverse it as it's quite short *grin*) So, publishing it isn't really necessary.

Yea I was just trying to see where it said that (they are all the same) because I must have missed it (yes I see it in the Infectus TUT but I assumed incorrectly that it was just there as an example). I understand how to use the keys and where to get them from I just always looked into the 1BL file to find the key but now I know that I can use the same one it is just one less step I need to do. If I were Robinsod I would protect my self also, just did not really add it up to being an issue but if it is copyrighted then of course do not add it. When I changed my DVDkey I went through the whole process of getting the 1BLkey from the 1BL file and did not know that they were all the same. I just think some of the people that are getting al happy about the Infectus 2 do not understand the timing attack does not get the CPUkey. It might be able to downgrade to 1888 but they still have to be able to upgrade to a good kernel. I was going to try this weekend to give some help to these people with lost DVDkeys by just doing what they are saying and then post the results so they understand it can not be done as of yet. I will take a box with an unknown DVDkey and downgrade it to 1888 and then try everyway to update it to 4532. I know you can not run games but I will try with a hard drive that has been updated to 4532, with the disk for HDDVD, just a few things to see what happens.  I have heard that if you use a hard drive from a newer kernel it will update your box to that kernel so I will give a few things a try just to see and post back for these guys.

This post has been edited by GandyMan: Dec 12 2007, 05:28 PM

[caster420]

QUOTE(GandyMan @ Dec 12 2007, 11:20 AM)

 I will take a box with an unknown DVDkey and downgrade it to 1888 and then try everyway to update it to 4532. I know you can not run games but I will try with a hard drive that has been updated to 4532, with the disk for HDDVD, just a few things to see what happens.

I believe (not 100% certain) that you can use the HD upgrade disc without a known DVDkey.  So, that will allow you to upgrade to an exploitable kernel.  This, however, still doesnt accomplish anything.  You can't get your CPU key without running the modified KK disc, which requires you to have your DVDkey.  

 

Caster.

[GandyMan]

QUOTE(caster420 @ Dec 12 2007, 05:27 PM)

I believe (not 100% certain) that you can use the HD upgrade disc without a known DVDkey.  So, that will allow you to upgrade to an exploitable kernel.  This, however, still doesnt accomplish anything.  You can't get your CPU key without running the modified KK disc, which requires you to have your DVDkey.  

 

Caster.

Yes so true so true. I think I have been miss understood. All my post under this topic are telling a few people that it can not be done. I fully understand this and if it was possible I would have done it already to a few boxs from ebay that do not have dvd drives in them. Like I said I am just doing it to show those that still come here and say that the Infectus can no this that it can not be done. They will always be able to get only so far without the DVDkey or like you have stated the CPUkey. I was just trying to think of a way to get at least back to a good kernel. Like I said I understand this but there are like four people that keep thinking that it is possible so I figured I would try everything and let them see that it still comes down to not being able to modify the DVDkey.

[chipD]

I would like to make it clear on whats involved to UNban your 360.First of all, you need to either have 4532 or downgrade to it.You also need to run a modified backup of King Kong(which requires modified FW which requires your DVDkey)You also need to run linux via serial, or the linux gentoo beta 2 CD.Once linux is booted, you need to run a program on your 360 called dump32 to get your FUSES.txt and 1BL.bin. Now your 360 can be Unbanned.....BUT....you need to do this all over again to a different 360 that hasnt been banned.

So lets think of a few reasons to go through all this trouble:
1. You got a really good deal on non banned 360 with or without a drive, but has the DVDkey, that overheats after running a few hours (enough time to perform this task).
2. your just crazy and want to say you did it.
3. I really cant see any other reason other then the two above and i cant see anyone selling a 360 with the DVDkey for really cheap unless its RRod or in a best case senerio it just overheats after a few hours of play, and is bound to RRod in the immediate future.

In my case, I had a launch day 360 the would freeze/lockup with green checker blocks within 5 minute of running, I tried every cooling mod to date, short of reballing the gpu, or water cooling, and i found that running it directly over an AC would keep it cool enough to run for an hour or so, just enough time to downgrade it, and get the FUSES.txt, and 1BL.bin that contained the CPUkey.So even though this 360 is pretty much useless, I feel good i accomplished something, and if i ever need an extra CPUkey i have one.

[bidomo]

is confusing....


Is possible to get DVD key with infectus from a ruined drive???


--or not???

let's make things clear please...

[GandyMan]

QUOTE(bidomo @ Dec 13 2007, 10:55 AM)

is confusing....
Is possible to get DVD key with infectus from a ruined drive???
--or not???

let's make things clear please...

Without the CPUkey it is not possible. With infectus you can dump the nand but still have to have the CPUkey to change the DVDkey. Although Infectus is stating that you can change the DVDkey it is based on having the CPUkey which means you have to be able to run the exploit. If you still have the drive than yes it is possible to get the key from it and inject it into a replacement drive (easy if it just stopped reading, harder if it is dead and the flash can not be read from the normal means and impossible if the drive was flashed improperly and now has the wrong key with no backup files.)

What do you mean by a ruined drive?

[chipD]

QUOTE(bidomo @ Dec 13 2007, 10:55 AM)

is confusing....
Is possible to get DVD key with infectus from a ruined drive???
--or not???

let's make things clear please...

It MAY be possible to extract the key from your drive with an infectus, depending on how badly corrupted the firmware is.If for some reason your drive died , but the flash chip isnt the cause, then yes you could possibly read the flash chip and dump the firmware to extract the key.If your drive is dead, because you erased the firmware and did not back it up, then you are most likely screwed.But lets say you shorted something out on the drive while connecting it to your PC, its possible that the flash chip is still good, but you cant read it because the drive need to be fully functional to read it via the PC method.With the infectus you can dump the flash chip without even powering the drive up.You basicly give the flash chip power externally and the infectus will detect it, and you can dump the firmware.

[thatguy411]

will this help me out by chance?my prob.is my drive went and i cant get the key off it to put a new one in is the box done or no? thanks for any help

[X-hacker]

QUOTE(thatguy411 @ Jun 13 2009, 07:50 AM)

will this help me out by chance?my prob.is my drive went and i cant get the key off it to put a new one in is the box done or no? thanks for any help

NO

Only option is to dump your old drive's firmware and get the key that way...

Other than that... NO NO NO