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[Spark]

http://digg.com/gaming_news/Xbox_360_DVD_K...ion_Code_hacked

Sorry if this is has already been posted but I couldnt find it on the news section of the main site.

Does this theoretically mean that the code could be set to 0 thus producing a region-free dvd player ?

[Xx The 0ne xX]

aww, u beat me to it, heres the XBH thread:

http://www.xboxhacke...g51233#msg51233


wootz we will hopefully be playing other region content on our 360s soon

[Spark]

Does it refer to dvd region coding or games, as I assumed it was dvd video (game region as far as I know is stored in the kernel) but the discussions on maxconsole and such seem to refer to game regions.

Maybe Chancer or someone could confirm this.

[ScrewinGates]

according to xbh it is talking about the region code of the console.big step for the 360 world.get ready to play some imports

This post has been edited by ScrewinGates: Jul 17 2007, 08:16 PM

[sosotiit]

very interesting

but not a dvd-rom topic, moved to Technical Onboard Bios / Kernel / Dashboard Forum
-soso

[Spark]

Oh sorry about that, I wasn't sure, I didn't think it was possible to modify region control through the drive though.

So if this means that somebody has been able to modify info in the system kernel then doesn't that mean that it could be possible to theoretically write a new serial to a console and effectively unban it from Live ?

[KyesaRRi]

QUOTE(Spark @ Jul 17 2007, 09:26 PM)

Oh sorry about that, I wasn't sure, I didn't think it was possible to modify region control through the drive though.

So if this means that somebody has been able to modify info in the system kernel then doesn't that mean that it could be possible to theoretically write a new serial to a console and effectively unban it from Live ?

Well when it gets to that stage you will need another consoles id to replace your current one with, just like with the xbox 1 and the eeprom swapping.

[baltazor]

Tampering whit the system kernel   !!!

Isnt that why all xbox1 owners got banned in the first place back then?

Please be glad whit wot uve got already, dont push ur M$ luck lol


urs,

Baltazor,

[torne]

QUOTE(baltazor @ Jul 19 2007, 01:34 AM)

Tampering whit the system kernel   !!!

Nope, kernel is not modified, the keyvault is analogous to the EEPROM contents on the xbox1.

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Isnt that why all xbox1 owners got banned in the first place back then?

Dude, it's not like they haven't started banning people for modding 360s already

[baltazor]

QUOTE(torne @ Jul 19 2007, 01:49 PM)

Dude, it's not like they haven't started banning people for modding 360s already (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Dude, its more and more clear to me that those very same poeple are getting banned because of playing incomplete/altered backups if u know wot i mean.  So, if u ask me they diserve it to bbanned!  From wot ive read arround places,  users are not been able to been playing "JUST ANY" backups anymore since the birth of Ixtreme = inlike STEALTH xTREME Backups u see.   If the ban woud be cause becaus of the firm detection, then allot of my friends who still are on 5.3 woud have been banned u know by now...  It just that poeple still dont get it , and continue playing dvd5 versions of games or games from wich the security files are stripped so on and on and on.  And if that has anything to do whit (wich i think it is for the reasons i just stated earlier) it then its  THEIR OWN FAT FAULT and the DESERVE TO BE BANNED.

urs ,


baltatje,



This post has been edited by baltazor: Jul 19 2007, 09:52 PM

[baltazor]

QUOTE(torne @ Jul 19 2007, 01:49 PM)

Nope, kernel is not modified, the keyvault is analogous to the EEPROM contents on the xbox1.
 

U sure about that,.....?

See bellow why,

 

QUOTE(Spark @ Jul 17 2007, 09:26 PM)

(game region as  far as I know is stored in the kernel)

So, if it indeed is stored in the kernel then it awfully look like the kernel shall be modified too at least to change that!!

Just my 2 eurocents,

urs,

baltahahatje,


 
 

[torne]

QUOTE(baltazor @ Jul 19 2007, 10:08 PM)

ALSO.....
U sure about that,.....?

Yes. I've been observing the entire development of this on xboxhacker and I'm a professional embedded developer who spends half the day futzing with the contents of NAND flash on odd devices

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So, if it indeed is stored in the kernel then it awfully look like the kernel shall be modified too at least to change that!!

The NAND flash contains several things:
* The cpu/southbridge init code and second stage boot loader.
* The original hypervisor and kernel
* Patches to the hypervisor and kernel
* The keyvault
* A filesystem, containing the dashboard binaries and resources

The keyvault is a separate part of the flash from the kernel, hypervisor and dash. It can be changed independently of the kernel, all that is required is a known CPU key to decrypt and encrypt it with. It includes the DVD key, the game region, and various other settings (some with known purposes, some currently unknown).

This is why it's possible to upgrade the kernel after dumping your CPU key, and still modify the region afterwards - the keyvault is not kernel-dependant as far as anyone knows, currently this kind of modification appears to work just fine. It is fairly analogous to the EEPROM on the xbox1, though it only seems to store 'permanent' settings like the DVD key and region - the normal dash settings are probably somewhere else. Unlike the EEPROM on the xbox1, however, it's encrypted, so you can't modify it without knowing the key.

Also, it doesn't store the CPU key (equivalent of the xbox1 serial) so it's not possible to get unbanned by modifying the keyvault (unlike xbox1 where you can replace the serial with another box's and thus get back on live)

I hope that makes it clearer.