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belke

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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2007, 12:33:00 AM »

keep the good news coming!
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« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2007, 03:05:00 AM »

I tried to keep the exploitable kernel in my box for a looooong time(so no gaming at all,just sitting there), and yesterday i finally updated it  sad.gif ...now i'm the same boat of the others 4552 owners, i hope there'll be in the future a similar tool for newer kernels. Great work guys!
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« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2007, 03:26:00 AM »

I have two console with 5759 kernel mad.gif who can wait with 4552?Really I curios.
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« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2007, 03:33:00 AM »

Very interesting read, this is that kind of news I want to read here  tongue.gif

I would love to be able to run homebrew like xbmc on my 360, that application is the only reason I still have to keep my old xbox1.
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« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2007, 03:49:00 AM »

This is excellent news!

I've been trying to keep up to date with this whole Hypervisor Vulnerablility progress stuff but news is so few and far between. As far as I'm aware there is nothing useful you can actually do with the Hypervisor Vulnerability hack yet, right?

Don't get me wrong, I understand that this is f*ckin awsome progress towards an ultimate 360 hack, I just wanted to check that I'm not uninformed about a useful application of this hack thus far.

Keep up the great work!!
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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2007, 05:07:00 AM »

"On kernel 4532/4548 you can use the Hypervisor Exploit to retrieve this data (like the Xell Linux Loader does)"

Can someone tell me how to extract the cpu key with the exploitable kernel and xell please. How do i find the key?
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« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2007, 05:12:00 AM »

So if you remove the resistor thing so if you update by accident you can downgrade to the hacked kernel then extract your CPU key then upgrade and replace the resistor on mobo (for safety) then with your known CPU key you can down/upgrade anytime you like without worrying?
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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2007, 05:32:00 AM »

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It was already known that by removing the r6t3 resistor from the motherboard before the upgrade you could prevent MS from blowing eFuses and thus still be able to downgrade from a 4552+ to pre-4552, but I don't know how safe this is for future kernel updates.
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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2007, 06:12:00 AM »

Simply.. wow.

Cheers to XBH and all of it's contributors. Here's hoping the brains figure a way to lift that CPU key regardless.. then it will be as Xan said.. game over.
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2007, 06:43:00 AM »

Encryption of the *keyvault* (that stores: console certificate(s), per-box private keys, DVD key, however NOT any code-related encryption keys)


So does this say we ran retrieve our DVDkey... So lost DVDkeys can be restored???

Since I've got a foulty 360 here wioth broken 360 but lost my FW...
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« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2007, 08:12:00 AM »

Grats to the geniuses who finally understood together M$ security.

Don't forget the downgrading process is still something requiring expert skills.
To upgrade, burning a cd is enough.
To downgrade, on contrary, is tricky : infectus chip or another flashing device, wires to solder inside, etc...

So, becareful, and don't just upgrade because of the news (if you want homebrew badly).
If you have the vublnerable firmware, keep it and do your homework : start xell and write down your efuses
(this way you don't lose everything the day your little bro or sis inserts a new game dvd and upgrades...)

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« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2007, 08:14:00 AM »

if they figure out how to lift the keys be it software or hardware it means we can finnly get some real mods for a 360 not that firmware crap. a chip if found threw hardware would mean dule kernel setups and possably a boot loader so you dont need to flash the firmware. but finding a way to intercept the 360 boot prosses and load the old kernel wasent possable couse of the burnt efuse now it is. it means something like intercept boot prosses grab key load old kernel and run expolite and start new boot loader. and now is possable to do.

then again i never moded for the backup thing sence i never damage my disk its all homebrew for me. and those that use the small children excuse is a pretty bad one sence i have small kids play my systems all the time. its  very simple to work around you simply handel the disk for them untill you teach them how to handel them thereselfs.

as for the mods be it threw the firmware or chiped it seems live isnt gonna happon so where gonna be back to xbox 1 days anyways. sence firmware mods are now bannable and running a old kernel whont allow live without a update.

This post has been edited by luther349: Jun 24 2007, 03:19 PM
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« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2007, 08:15:00 AM »

Doesnt that mean though that if u take out the resistor R6T3 or whatever it is, it wont blow an efuse, then if u upgrade ur dash, the number in the efuse cpu check thing wont match the number of efuses blown, so an update will brick the 360?
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« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2007, 08:50:00 AM »

QUOTE(flashfreak @ Jun 24 2007, 09:15 AM) View Post

Doesnt that mean though that if u take out the resistor R6T3 or whatever it is, it wont blow an efuse, then if u upgrade ur dash, the number in the efuse cpu check thing wont match the number of efuses blown, so an update will brick the 360?


i, too, do not clearly understand all of the benefits of removing resistor R6T3...


great news that some serious modders are working tirelessly on opening up the 360 for homebrew applications...i could use XBMC on the original xbox for years to come, but having the power of the 360 for XBMC would be amazing...
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« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2007, 10:00:00 AM »

QUOTE(X-Clusion @ Jun 24 2007, 09:19 AM) *

Encryption of the *keyvault* (that stores: console certificate(s), per-box private keys, DVD key, however NOT any code-related encryption keys)
So does this say we ran retrieve our DVDkey... So lost DVDkeys can be restored???

Since I've got a foulty 360 here wioth broken 360 but lost my FW...


Yes! And all that you need to do in order to retrieve your dvd key is to have a working matched dvd rom so that you can run King Kong and subsequently the linux boot disc  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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