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Midnight Tboy

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Hiya,

Now I've searched and can't seem to see other people posting this easier method, as all the guides i've come across have you zero'ing the drive, hex editing it to create the partitions manually etc.

Here is a simple way to do this without having to hex edit the drive.  It perhaps takes a little while longer to do depending on how much data you have to backup...but that is only waiting for the pc to do the legwork for you - no major messing around

I did it in a similar way when moving from a stock 20gb drive to a 120gb bevs drive 18months ago, and just tried it now with similar methods and it works perfectly fine.  In this case, i've moved from a 120gb drive to a 320gb drive.


1.  To start with I had a 320gb drive.  It had previously been used with multiple partitions.  I simply removed the partitions on the drive (without zero'ing) so it was showing as empty (this may not actually be required but I did it anyway)

2.  Connect your 360 drive (modded or genuine) to pc.

3.  Launch Xplorer360_extreme2 and click Drive | Open | Harddrive Or Memcard

4.  Once it loads the drive, click Drive | Backup Image.

5.  Give the file a name and press to start the backup creation.  This will take quite a while depending on hdd size.... The amount of space taken up is the full hdd size, NOT the amount of hdd space that was used on the drive...so ie 120gb on a 120gb drive - even if you only had 40gb of data on it

6.  While its copying, connect your new hdd to the 360, and have it format the drive.  It should format fine and show up the full size of the new drive.  However, at the moment it only has 1 partition.

6.  Go for a cuppa, watch an episode, pick your nose, scratch your bum for a while while its copying the whole image.  Maybe offer to make the other half a cuppa and she'll think you're nice for taking time away from the pc (little does she know your stuck in limbo (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif))

7.  Once done, close Xplorer360_extreme2.

8.  Connect the new hdd to pc.

9.  Launch Xplorer360_extreme2 again.

10.  Click Drive | Open | Harddrive Or Memcard

11.  Click Drive | Restore Image

12.  Browse to the large file you backed up and let it restore.

13.  Go watch a movie (For me it took 90minutes on a 120gb Drive - with the drive connected by USB).  Wash the pots if you hope to get lucky later (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

14.  Once that is complete....your hdd now has the 3 partitions made.  Partitions 1 and 2 are valid, but partition 3 is bad, as it will report as the file size of the other hdd.

15.  Connect the drive back to the 360 and format it again.  It should now report the full file size and it's done!! yay!!


Optional Step

If you want to transfer over your existing saves, profiles and content :-

16.  Launch Xplorer360_extreme2, click Drive | Open Image | then select your original hdd image file.

17.  Click on Partition 3

18.  Highlight all the files in partition 3, then right click and choose Extract.  Select a temporary folder and let your content extract out of the image.

19.  Close Xplorer360_extreme2, then connect your new larger hdd to the pc.

20.  Launch Xplorer360_extreme2 click Drive | Open | Harddrive Or Memcard.

21. Browse to your new empty partition 3.  Then simply drag and drop all the files you've just extracted into it.

All your content should now have come across with no problems.

Hope that helps some of you guys
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jgsieve

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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2010, 06:03:00 PM »

This is awesome. Thanks! So simple!
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Midnight Tboy

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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2010, 06:11:00 PM »

Hope it works for you jgsieve.

First draft so hopefully not made that many typos that will kill ur xbox wink.gif
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2010, 08:37:00 PM »

why is this so hard.  this is the long way around it the way you are doing it.

format the new large drive in your 360 then do the following steps.

You will need to restore Partition2 using Xplorer360 Extreme2 (get this from a retail M$ drive using Xplorer360 Extreme2) If you are using a non M$ hard drive you will need to add the partitions manually first for Xplorer360 Extreme2 to see the drive. Otherwise you will get a "No fatx partition found" error.

Add the missing partition manually starting at byte 0x80000 of your non M$ Drive. You need to make it look like:

58 54 41 46 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 10 00 00 00 01

So, the easy way to do this: open your drive with winhex( http://www.x-ways.net/winhex.zip) by pressing F9, select yournon M$ drive, press <ALT>+G, use position 80000 (hexadec) and then edit these 16 bytes starting at 0x80000 to look like above. Save it, restart the xplorer360 Extreme 2 and the FATX error should be gone and you should see 2 partitions now.

This info came from thespecialist a while back when he discovered what xplorer360 is looking for and then using xplrer360 Extreme2 restore partiton 2 you backed up from your M$ HDD. You will not be able to see anything in partition 3 with Xplorer360 Extreme2 but I recommend if you google this "FATXplorer 1.0 app developed by Eaton Cracked by Cyrax" you will find a cracked version and it even tells you what game the numbered folders are.

Now you will need to run the Update for Xbox1 Compatibility. you can find this here: http://www.microsoft....DisplayLang=en

After downloading this file extract it and burn to a cdr and put it in your 360. it will show like it is a game. play it and install it. (I recommend trying a retail Xbox1 game to make sure it is all ok) Congrats you now have Xbox1 Emulation partiton restored and working.
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2010, 11:53:00 AM »

musch faster for me as i have no idea how the hex crap works i have read it maybe 10 times still dont get it
this is the way i did my 120 back when they came out  so i tried it with a 250 i had for my ps3 that well no need for it in there lol

eithercase
I used  extream 2 did not work files showed in xplorer but did not show on 360 so i had to use the Xplorer360_250gb_Edition and all files show
question is will a 500 work with 250 edition or will i need to use another program
and is there a program that makes adding to 360 hdd faster on pc


Hex edit guys dont get whats so hard well from a guy that hasnt a clue on hex editing
and a guy that normaly thinks everything is easy .. and dont consider others have no clue
just because we know how to do something and its easy doesnt mean its easy for others ..ya know so if the hard way to you is easier to us so be it

if you know a good way to get files transfered to the new drive FASTER without using Xplorer360 let me know PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

This post has been edited by death69inc: Jan 26 2010, 07:55 PM
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Midnight Tboy

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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2010, 12:18:00 PM »

Actually I made a mistake with the final "Optional" part of the guide.

As I learned the hard way.....what happens when you use xplorer360 to copy the files back over....They DO copy over BUT....xplorer doesnt see the true partition 3 thats on the drive and thinks its empty, instead its as if it sees what it thinks it is.  As a result....when you copy files over to the partition with xplorer360 - and then put it back in the 360....the files show...BUT the total size available has reverted back to the old size.

So I reformatted the drive in 360 and that partition showed up as fine again with full space.

I then did try using FatXPlorer among other xplorer360 alternative programs - but they're all very slow to transfer large amounts of data - and sometimes come up with error messages when trying to transfer.....  Do seem fine with small transfers however but if trying to dump a load of data then seems very tempermental (to me at least)

Soooo...the easiest and fastest way to get the data back to 360 is the manual way with a USB drive and copying it in xexmenu.  (I can't edit the first post unfortunately)


Soooo..

16. Launch Xplorer360_extreme2, click Drive | Open Image | then select your original hdd image file.

17. Click on Partition 3

18. Highlight all the files in partition 3, then right click and choose Extract. Select a temporary folder on the USB Drive and let xplorer360 extract all the files, content, xbla titles etc to your USB Drive

19. Close Xplorer360_extreme2.

20. Load up 360 (with the new hdd connected) and plug in the USB drive to one of the ports.

21.  Launch xexmenu from a CD

21.  Within XEXMenu, browse to your temp folder on USB drive, then select Copy to the first folder. (eg $SystemUpdate )

22.  Navigate to the root of the main hdd for xbox 360 and select Paste.

23.  Repeat 21 and 22  for each of the main folders

All your content should now have come across with no problems. (This time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif))

You generally should only have 4 folders.... $SystemUpdate , $TitleUpdate , Cache, and Content.

Be sure to only copy from them folders....it's not the end if you don't - but inside the Content Folder is likely to be lots of subfolders.  If you copy from the whole of the Content folder it should copy every subfolder too......whereas if you tried to do each individual subfolder, there is no way at the moment in XEXMenu to select multiple files so could take ages




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doveman007

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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2010, 07:15:00 PM »

Wouldn't it be better to just backup the data from the original drive and then restore that to the new drive, rather than making a 120GB image of a drive that might be mostly empty?

Sorry if this isn't possible, I haven't got round to trying myself yet, just wondering.
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2010, 10:06:00 PM »

So now fatxplorer will be able to see a 500 gb laptop "360 drive" and your  xbla content and games off your old crappy 20 gig drive will be "cloned" onto the new 500 correct?

Plus you can extract/inject into the new 500 gb drive?

If you can then i seriously thank you because as someone else stated hex editing isn't for everybody unsure.gif
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Antman1

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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2010, 10:43:00 PM »

well you can do it this way or:

let XBR format your drive (Any size) then run the program "hdd_compat_partition_fixer_v1" found in the usual places and then you will have all necessary partitions for Xplorer360 to work with your XBR formated drive.  and as a plus it will retain your data so you wont lose anything if you already started using the drive.  then the only thing you would have to do for Xbox1 compatibility is use Xplorer360 Extreme2 to backup and restore partition 2 only!  Of course if the drive is over 20gb or 120gb this ver of Xplorer360 will not show the contents of partition3.  And this is a way of doing it without hex editing.  Now depending on your size of hard drive you will need to fix Xplorer360 so it will see the contents of partition3 (would have had to be done anyway).  you can find info here on how to do it: http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=699395
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doveman007

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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2010, 11:38:00 AM »

err, how will it retain your data if you format it?
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Antman1

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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2010, 01:15:00 PM »

do not format if your drive is already in fatx format and just missing the partition.  guess I should have made that more clear.  obviously if you are just missing partition2 and you have already been using the drive then skip to the part of running "hdd_compat_partition_fixer_v1" and continue with the rest.

So basically if your drive has data on it and you are using XBR then load the "hdd_compat_partition_fixer_v1" program and let it create partition2 then using xplorer360 extreme2 backup a partition 2 from another M$ drive then restore that partition2 on your XBR Drive you have then Xbox1 compatible games will work after you run the update.  then also Xplorer360 (Modified with your magic number) will work on yer new drive as it will have all the partitions you are needing for it to be seen.
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« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2010, 01:57:00 PM »

Cool, thanks for clarifying that. If it's that easy with existing drives I'll be happy.

Isn't there a chance though that there's already data stored in the area where "hdd_compat_partition_fixer_v1" will create partition2 and that data will be lost? I just setup my 250GB HD using HDDHackr with the 250GB hdss.bin, so I'm not sure what sectors it's currently using.
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2010, 02:40:00 PM »

partition 2 is located in a different area of the drive and is in the same area on every drive..
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2010, 10:15:00 AM »

I just tried this method and extreme2 seems to be stuck just three bars in on the progress bar. I left it running overnight and it's still hasn't done anything.
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2010, 11:09:00 AM »

Does this also work if you were using a HD from a 360 which got banned from live and as such, the HD was crippled ?

I have a new 640GB drive for my JTAG'd 360 and my old drive (crippled one) is 60GB.

ALL i want from the 60GB drive, is my Fifa 10 & Mass Effect II saves, nothing more.  I believe, that the saves are crippled...how do i go about transferring them to the new 360 drive ?

Thanks for any suggestions / advice smile.gif
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