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[heinrich]

QUOTE (warbeast @ Aug 22 2003, 01:08 PM)

QUOTE (heinrich @ Aug 22 2003, 04:12 PM) QUOTE (warbeast @ Aug 22 2003, 12:06 PM) well my ip setup for live and evox is 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.x 255.255.255.0 so instead of changing the setting on my pc evox and live ill just change the info in the bios not that ill ever use the bios like stcogolin said what is the point??? You dont need to change anything but the SUBNET on your PC, this has been said over and over.  And it doesnt matter what the xbox's IP is while running EVOX, or LIVE, this ftpd is run seperatly from all of that.  Think of it more as a an X2 DASH in the bios, one that does nothing but acts as an FTP server. i still need to change my ip for my pc nic and if i do that i will then need to change my ip for evox and live.

NO, you dont.

JUST CHANGE THE SUBNET....

This really isnt all the hard to see folks.

[Troed]

QUOTE (stealth @ Aug 22 2003, 04:49 PM)

Don't forget about the TCP/IP stack.  Afaik, the kernel does not have one.

Several small TCP/IP stacks exist if Team X-ecuter couldn't use the one on the Xbox.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/ucip/

Don't get me wrong - nice work by Team X-ecuter - I just don't see what the fuss is

[Xeero]

QUOTE (Troed @ Aug 22 2003, 12:48 PM)

QUOTE (Xeero @ Aug 22 2003, 04:32 PM) What happens when 49 of 50 people can't boot the CD?? Why should that happen? Please don't tell me you don't know what cdrw brands work on all different Xboxes ..

I've owned 3 Thomsons.  1 of them boots ONE type of CD-RW (Imation 650MB - not 700MB).  The other two, one of which is now expired, wouldn't boot ANY CD-RW.

If you had any experience in Xbox modding, you'd know that the pot settings is different in every single drive, and there is no magic CD-RW brand that will work on every Xbox drive.

[warbeast]

QUOTE (heinrich @ Aug 22 2003, 05:13 PM)

QUOTE (warbeast @ Aug 22 2003, 01:08 PM) QUOTE (heinrich @ Aug 22 2003, 04:12 PM) QUOTE (warbeast @ Aug 22 2003, 12:06 PM) well my ip setup for live and evox is 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.x 255.255.255.0 so instead of changing the setting on my pc evox and live ill just change the info in the bios not that ill ever use the bios like stcogolin said what is the point??? You dont need to change anything but the SUBNET on your PC, this has been said over and over.  And it doesnt matter what the xbox's IP is while running EVOX, or LIVE, this ftpd is run seperatly from all of that.  Think of it more as a an X2 DASH in the bios, one that does nothing but acts as an FTP server. i still need to change my ip for my pc nic and if i do that i will then need to change my ip for evox and live. NO, you dont. JUST CHANGE THE SUBNET.... This really isnt all the hard to see folks.

ok maybe its because ive had a bit to drink but the way i see it is the bios has 192.168.1.xx setup my nic has 192.168.0xx so wouldnt i need to change the ip on my pc nic

[manasol]

would i be able to use this bios and ftp evox to my harddrive and then get rid of the bios?

go back to 256k?

[Troed]

QUOTE (Xeero @ Aug 22 2003, 05:25 PM)

QUOTE (Troed @ Aug 22 2003, 12:48 PM) QUOTE (Xeero @ Aug 22 2003, 04:32 PM) What happens when 49 of 50 people can't boot the CD?? Why should that happen? Please don't tell me you don't know what cdrw brands work on all different Xboxes .. I've owned 3 Thomsons.  1 of them boots ONE type of CD-RW (Imation 650MB - not 700MB).  The other two, one of which is now expired, wouldn't boot ANY CD-RW. If you had any experience in Xbox modding, you'd know that the pot settings is different in every single drive, and there is no magic CD-RW brand that will work on every Xbox drive.

You're welcome over with your Thomsons, I have one Packard Bell and one Verbatim I promise you will boot in them.

I wouldn't state that if I wasn't sure - you may draw your own conclusions.

[0s1r1s]

BE CAREFUL:  
Some people seem to have problems with this Bios (X2 4978) on the Xecuter 2.1/2.0 Lite modchip: when they flash it, it's written that it's "Successful" but when they reboot, their XBox doesn't work anymore...
This problem was noticed by 2 persons on the french XBox-Modding Community Forum: Xbox-Hacks

PROBLEM INDICATION => They flashed their modchip with the last version of the EvoX dashboard which is a little bit buggy with this function

[stealth]

Well i took a look at the 4978 bios, and it appears that they have simply embedded an ftpd xbe in the kernel image.  (similar to how xbeboot can have an embedded initrd and such).  When it wants to run the ftp server, it first maps all the partitions to the appropriate drives, then reads the xbe out of the kernel memory space and launches it.

That's why it is so big.

It includes all the libs necessary for the directx support and network support etc.

Here's some debug statements from the bios if you are interested:

"*** Trying to launch miniFtpd ***n"
"Xbox memory image loaded: %Zn"
'This XBE was linked with %8.8s.LIB version %d.%02d.%d.%02d%s
'XBE loading successful... now running the XBE!'

While it is a somewhat clever solution, I'm disappointed that the ftp server isn't truly a function of the bios.  You could embed something like the evox dashboard in a similar fashion pretty easily.

It would be about 10000% times cooler if they had the ethernet driver / tcp-ip stack / and ftpd directly implemented in the bios, but hey, it's not an easy task.  Since they don't care about legal issues, it might be easier for them as they could steal stuff from the existing xdk net libs, rather then having to reverse the driver and porting a tcp/ip stack.

Anyhow, I hope this isn't indicative of the types of innovations they are going to have in the future.

[heinrich]

QUOTE (warbeast @ Aug 22 2003, 01:25 PM)

QUOTE (heinrich @ Aug 22 2003, 05:13 PM) QUOTE (warbeast @ Aug 22 2003, 01:08 PM) QUOTE (heinrich @ Aug 22 2003, 04:12 PM) QUOTE (warbeast @ Aug 22 2003, 12:06 PM) well my ip setup for live and evox is 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.x 255.255.255.0 so instead of changing the setting on my pc evox and live ill just change the info in the bios not that ill ever use the bios like stcogolin said what is the point??? You dont need to change anything but the SUBNET on your PC, this has been said over and over.  And it doesnt matter what the xbox's IP is while running EVOX, or LIVE, this ftpd is run seperatly from all of that.  Think of it more as a an X2 DASH in the bios, one that does nothing but acts as an FTP server. i still need to change my ip for my pc nic and if i do that i will then need to change my ip for evox and live. NO, you dont. JUST CHANGE THE SUBNET.... This really isnt all the hard to see folks. ok maybe its because ive had a bit to drink but the way i see it is the bios has 192.168.1.xx setup my nic has 192.168.0xx so wouldnt i need to change the ip on my pc nic

NO, i am going to explain this is very simple words, so now jump on me for not using proper terms  

If your subnet is 255.255.255.0:

Devices can only 'talk' to other devices when all but the last set of numbers are the same.  Example:
Every device needs to be: 192.168.1.xxx

If your subnet is 255.255.0.0:

Devices can only 'talk' to other devices when all but the last 2 sets of numbers are the same.  Example:
Every device needs to be: 192.168.xxx.xxx.

SO, your PC can have an IP of 192.168.1.2, and the xbox can be 192.168.10.123, and you can still 'talk' to the xbox.

I havent really used a store bought router much (netgear, linksys, etc).  But I am guessing that you could change this one time in the routers config, reboot, and now your devices will use the 255.255.0.0 subnet when they DHCP an address

[warbeast]

there are shit loads of ways to ftp in your xbox! if your that unlucky not to be able to boot any cdrw media in your xbox you could use the 007 hack to boot evox,sure this bios makes it alot easer but anyone with any sense already knows how to ftp to there xbox without this bios

i think people were hoping for some magic bios with shit loads of new features and they got a bios with ftp and now there pist because they already have a working ftp

[Xeero]

Yes, the BIOS does make it easier.  So why so much flack?

[warbeast]

SO, your PC can have an IP of 192.168.1.2, and the xbox can be 192.168.10.123, and you can still 'talk' to the xbox.

thanks heinrich i see want you mean know lol

[ProstheticHead]

dose XBtool work with this bios? i wanted to make the X blue but when i open the bios in it, it just grays out the boxes

[ZildjianKX]

Well, here is my opinion...

The FTP BIOS is really nice if you're setting up your xbox for the first time, or if you totally screw up your dashboard... but that's about it.  This BIOS release seems very newb-ish oriented, and I'm just hoping that there will be two versions (with and without FTP) in the future.  I don't want to give up the multiBIOS functions of my X2 Pro for FTP I won't use.  I was kind of hoping they'd integrate the dev BIOS into the X2 BIOS.

There is a quote on the main page that is really bothering me:

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Well we've been saying it for a long time - that Bios's would 1 day breal the 1MB barrier and beyond.

How long has it been since the last signifigant BIOS release and how long has it been since the X2 modchips were released for their "bigger" BIOSes?  To me, inflating the size of BIOSes beyond 512k is just a selling point for their X3 modchips.  I mean come on, you've never even released a 512k BIOS to date, and now this.

I'm personally not getting an X3... there is absolutely nothing more I need from a modchip than my X2 Pro does.

Edit- And I forgot to mention, a 1 meg+ modchip is pretty pointless in my eyes.  Flame away, but its just a selling point since I'm sure Team Xecuter is hurting since the 007 exploit, etc.

[0s1r1s]

No, actually XBTool doesn't work with the new 4978 bios... we have to wait for a new version which (I think) is going to come in the next days