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[Terdinglage]

Now that we have a program for putting stuff onto the 360 and obiously know a lot about the directory info, can we at this time replace the 20gb HD for a bigger one or not?

[deadparrot]

Not yet.

[Jonolche]

I dont see why not, but MS is no doughtably releasing a bigger hdd.

[BlueCop]

Jonolche: maybe if you read you would see why not.

there is a signature on the harddrive that is based on the serial and model number. if this isn't correct the xbox won't recognize it. we don't have a way of generating this. there is of course a png on there as well of the MS copyrighted logo as well but that is mainly to prevent thrid party harddrives

[Jonolche]

What are you talking about?

Are you directing it at me?

If so why don't you look at common sence.  If you exchange hard drives with another xbox 360 how come it reads it? How come you can buy a xbox 360 hard drive? If MS dosen't know your xbox 360 model number in advance, How do they make it compatable with your hard drive?

OR

If you are saying that the hard drive had bulit in serial numbers and model numbers that are needed for the 360 to read it then you are correct, but you misunderstand me. I said that MS has made plans to release a larger hard drive. If you don't beleve me look at G4 or some other gaming site/show.

[BlueCop]

you would see why it it not possible to add your own larger harddrive was my point.

the reason it reads in any 360 is because the signature written on the harddrive based on its serial and model is correct. get it now? I never said it was locked to a 360. i know it isn't. it isn't a list of model/serials or "built in" serial/model information. any model and serial will work if it has the png file and the signature for the model and serial of the drive it is written on. i never said that it was built in lists. learn about this before you post misinformation. you do a disservice to everyone here when you post things you don't know and just think you know. you have no idea what you are saying. that is my whole point. there are lots of reasons why not.

the harddrives serial and model don't matter. all hard drives have serial and model numbers. it is the signature based on model/serial which is writen to the drive that matters.

i didn't say anything about ms plans because i don't care.

sorry about being redundant but you didn't seem to get it the first time and i don't want to post again and again to make you understand.

one way to upgrade to a larger drive is too hack the model/serial of a harddrive to match that of a orginal 360 harddisk you have. extract the header information(plain text of the model/serial on the drive, signature based on the model/serial, and the copyrights png from ms). if you then write to this new larger drive hacked to report the same model/serial. once you place it in the 360 you can go to the harddrive manager and it will give you an option to format the drive. this would work

This post has been edited by BlueCop: Feb 20 2006, 10:56 PM

[PedrosPad]

QUOTE(BlueCop @ Feb 20 2006, 11:56 PM)

one way to upgrade to a larger drive is too hack the model/serial of a harddrive to match that of a orginal 360 harddisk you have. extract the header information(plain text of the model/serial on the drive, signature based on the model/serial, and the copyrights png from ms). if you then write to this new larger drive hacked to report the same model/serial. once you place it in the 360 you can go to the harddrive manager and it will give you an option to format the drive. this would work

May not work if the secured information on the HDD includes the drive's physical geometry! (num cylinders, total platters, etc.).  All HDDs report these details (in exactly the same way they report their model/serial numbers) so they'd be easy enough to include in the encrypted data packet.
(And obviously, hacking the HDD firmware to also report false geometry means that it's capacity will be stymied - voiding the exercise. )

[TheSpecialist]

QUOTE(PedrosPad @ Feb 23 2006, 10:38 AM)

May not work if the secured information on the HDD includes the drive's physical geometry! (num cylinders, total platters, etc.).  All HDDs report these details (in exactly the same way they report their model/serial numbers) so they'd be easy enough to include in the encrypted data packet.
(And obviously, hacking the HDD firmware to also report false geometry means that it's capacity will be stymied - voiding the exercise. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif))

Judging by the lousy job they did on the DVD FW, I'd be rather surprised if they did this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Are there already ATAPI logs available from a 360 powering on ? I would be very interested to see what ATAPI packets are being exchanged. Furthermore, I'd be very interested to see what would happen if we'd clone a HD onto a 'standard PC' HD and patch its firmware to reply with the same model/serial info as the 360's HD. BTW, that model/serial info is stored in FW I assume ? Or is this also stored on disk ? That would make things even easier (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Sorry for this HD n00b questions, hehe, I've just started looking at the 'HD hacking' thing and it seems like a fun project (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by TheSpecialist: Mar 28 2006, 04:05 AM

[Drunkn_Munky]

Sh!t hot, we have TheSpecialist working on the HDD!

[KyesaRRi]

I havent dumped my HDD to my PC yet but id say its only stored in firmware, adding this data to the HDD would serve almost no point.
I wouldent be suprised if this data is stored on the HDD [num cylinders, total platters, ect] id say they would have placed more security on the HDD then the DVD drive as you can mod your HDD without voiding your 360's warranty. But then again were dealing with ms

[TheSpecialist]

Too bad, it will not happen ....

Together with the serial nr etc on the HD (starting at location $2000) is the 'sector count', which represents the HD size. This info is signed so we can't change anything here, meaning we can't install a bigger HD ...

Really too bad ...

[StuMan1337]

If they (MS) release a bigger HD, would it be possible to extract the sector count and serial number from one of them and use a HD of the same size?

[TheSpecialist]

QUOTE(StuMan1337 @ Apr 6 2006, 06:17 AM)

If they (MS) release a bigger HD, would it be possible to extract the sector count and serial number from one of them and use a HD of the same size?

Yes, that will be possible. So basically, we will have to wait for that

[fliX]

QUOTE(mr. newbie @ Jan 16 2006, 02:37 PM)

I recently opened the Xbox 360 hard drive to find a cheap Samsung 20 GB Serial ATA notebook hard drive. I took a ghost image of the hard drive, threw it on my computer using the motherboard (which is SATA compatible). I then went to CompUSA and bought a Serial ATA Western Digital 200 GB Notebook Hard drive and plugged that into the computer and uploaded the image, which was only 18.33 MB. Afterward, I connected it to the specially made SATA cable, and boom - I have 200 GB storage for my Xbox 360! This voids the old hard drive, but please pass it on that 20 GB is not enough!

hmm seems like it would work o0 ... well i only got the core version so i can't make an image of the hdd and put in a new hdd but i already made a cable which has a female s-ata connector and is directly connectet to the pins on the mainboard (damn hard work! ^^') (btw i also did a short-curcuit on the power connector xD but nothing happend i was just wondering why the xbox restarted every minute ^^). well he didn't contact me yet so if anyone of you could make an image and send me please contact me by email !!^^ and sorry for my bad english^_^

[Drunkn_Munky]

That will NOT work. He was bullshitting. As stated 100 times on these forums, there are checks to stop you using a non-xbox hard drive with your 360. Sorry but until MS release a bigger hard-drive and/or the protection is disabled, you've wasted your time.