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[jt1]

Great news!
Can somone explain why THX can't adopt the same method of key decryption. Its been declared as 'nothing new'. So how can he survive providing this 'illegal' service and charge for it; if the reason is that THX is afraid becsaue of legal implications?

If it is a partnership, why don't you just announce it?

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Props to foundmy for cracking the key encryption and providing a solution. Team HyperX will keep working to find a alternative solution!

[PornOH]

Great news.  Waiting patiently now..

[harrytasker]

QUOTE(PornOH @ Aug 4 2009, 08:02 PM)

Great news.  Waiting patiently now..

Yep great news, keep up the good work THX

[Geen Rommel]

QUOTE(Xbox-Scene @ Aug 4 2009, 05:58 PM)

At the moment the only way to get your key data is through the foundmy.com method. At this time we have no alternative solution. Props to foundmy for providing a solution. Team HyperX will keep working to find a alternative solution!

Why giving props to 1 shop in your readme when there are other shops selling it too now?
What happened to the alternative solution u guys already had, got it sold?

[sancho_panza]

QUOTE(amexie @ Aug 4 2009, 06:47 PM)

if they havn't found a soultion does that mean they had to pay the 42$ to get the key for the drives they tried
they must be working together firmware comes out day after key extracted
cause now they will sell alot more with out this firmware they wouldn't of sold that many

but good on them if they are they got to make a living somehow

They don't have "releasable" solution, which does not mean they don't have solutions at all.
In other words they are saying that putting the solution they have public, they would be in jail in no time (and throw the key away, err... not the liteon key...!)

[Cisk]

It could be Upped Anonymously to Newsgroups/trackers/RS leaving no way of M$ proving who did it.

Im pretty sure M$ will be more pissed that theirs a website making $42 a pop.

[Exobex]

I wonder how much the keys would've cost if the answer to life, the universe and everything was 20 instead of 42?

(click here if confused)

[PornOH]

QUOTE(Exobex @ Aug 4 2009, 11:32 AM)

I wonder how much the keys would've cost if the answer to life, the universe and everything was 20 instead of 42?

(click here if confused)

Maybe they just like getting high.

[Iriez]

QUOTE(fatc2k3 @ Aug 4 2009, 11:10 AM)

Thanks Team but whats with "At this time we have no alternative solution" i thought that THX had already stated "but at the very worst we have a work-around if all known backdoors are disabled"??

There are very few options in regards to getting information from the 83850c. It would be only in the most dire situation (absolutely no other solutions possible) that we might consider releasing these options.

Understand it from this perspective:

When you have a piece of hardware that has only 1 hole in it, by releasing that solution to the public you are handing the manufacturer a means to fix it. The next release of hardware, that hole is now fixed, and we went from "1" to "0". You understand that then there is NO way to hack it, right?

This is the scenario with the LiteOn....and a scenario in several other 360 related projects I've been involved with. By committing secrets to the public we are slowly but surely choking ourselves to death. It is a cat and mouse game, and the victor is the person who secures the hardware at the end. We help them secure the hardware with every hack released.

So in this instance we have a alternative solution that is viable. Yes, it costs money....but whats more important is this: YOU CAN MOD IT.

The end result is what is important.

So understand the phrase "in the very worst" .........We are NOT "in the very worst" right now. And if you think that paying a vendor for a service is "the very worst" then you, or anyone else who expresses that opinion....is not worthy of even one second of my time or thoughts. You are simply so absolutely pathetic and cheap that it is my feeling that you should be wiped off this planet. The worst case scenario (in this scene) will ALWAYS be "It cannot be done". If anyone thinks different....I feel sorry for anyone that has to deal with you in your life.

QUOTE(RRoD420 @ Aug 4 2009, 11:13 AM)

yeah they contacted foundmy.com and said lets make some money for the next few weeks

I want to make this CRYSTAL clear.

Unless I, or a representative of Team HyperX makes a public statement that they are working together with foundmy, I WILL NOT allow this conspiracy theory bullshit to clog these threads. This is for the discussion of ixtreme and the processing of key's through foundmy.....nothing more. Remember my avatar. Your posting ability here is a privilege, not a right.

[PornOH]

Not to mention, the current solution likely isn't easily replicable by any given person.  It could require extra tools which are not available to the public, like the previous creation of the CK3+probe. [I mean, the one THX has, not foundmy.com]

THX -could- copy foundmy.com by doing the same thing, assuming they have a way of getting the key from the files sent to foundmy.com.  And then, they could undercut them, and profit.  The main problem for us modders is that the usual cost of modding someone's box (craigslist) is 40-50 bucks.  Adding $42 that just makes it less worth-while to even mod people's xbox's.

As many have said, they would rather pay the people who develop the firmware than the people who try to take advantage of the ones who do.

Regardless, I am happy with waiting... in the mean time, I debate on returning my recently purchased arcade system or doing a swap for hopefully an older stock.

This post has been edited by PornOH: Aug 4 2009, 07:54 PM

[Iriez]

QUOTE(ghaladream @ Aug 4 2009, 11:14 AM)

Just be patient people. I'm sure an alternate method of getting the key from the 83850c will be found eventually. At least we have iX for it now, so the drive isn't 100% useless anymore.

The key word in this post is "eventually".

And likely that "eventually" will be after the 83850c's are out of production. I would not hold my breath.

[Iriez]

QUOTE(amexie @ Aug 4 2009, 11:47 AM)

if they havn't found a soultion does that mean they had to pay the 42$ to get the key for the drives they tried
they must be working together firmware comes out day after key extracted
cause now they will sell alot more with out this firmware they wouldn't of sold that many

but good on them if they are they got to make a living somehow

It has been stated numerous times that we have our own mean's to a end. What can be accomplished in private might not necessarily be feasibly accomplished by end users. No, THX does not pay foundmy money to beta test.

There are different way's of accomplishing this process. Would everyone prefer to install a modchip on their 83850c instead?

QUOTE(BoNg420 @ Aug 4 2009, 11:57 AM)

First must give props to THX for another great job....

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Releasing this firmware without a way to get the key is like putting a horny naked chick in front of you and saying DON'T TOUCH.

Everyone's best bet is to avoid foundmy.com like the plague.  They can barely keep up with shipping out items they sell, I don't know how he could keep up with the key requests.

What I recommend everyone doing is boycotting foundmy.com service and wait for a free alternative to come around.  If you really want to throw your money around send THX $5-20 or something but don't give it to Terry or whatever from foundmy.com he can kiss the fattest part of my ass.  He made me lose 3 customers one time because I was waiting on Wii chips to come that NEVER SHIPPED.  I had to file a chargeback to get my money back and that took time and phone calls and such.

So avoid foundmy.com and force him to lower his price or someone to put out a free way of getting the keys from these drives.

I will admit foundmy.com was a reliable site at one time, but they have gone down hill to much to trust them with this service.

There's one simple fact that makes your entire statement false.

There IS a way to get the key. So your comparison was highly inaccurate. Now, if you have a opinion as to the efficiency of the shop processing the keys, then that is fine.

But to take that opinion and make it so strong that it erases facts? Sorry, thats ridiculous.

As I've stated before, there are wholesaler options. I've already seen one reseller sell a few keys. If your so worried about foundmy's services, perhaps you should speak to your preferable mod shop and ask them to become a reseller. It seems to me that that route would be the more appropriate and mature way to handle this than "starting a boycott" to the people that have brought the ONLY solution to the problem right now. If they want to charge too much for it, that is their right.

But either way your proposal is only hurting, not helping.

[Radament]

I am amazed that they did it for free this far.
Im sure at least half of the people who are complaining here have made quite a few bucks from their work.
Let them have some credit for their work finnaly, its well deserved.

[Iriez]

QUOTE(jt1 @ Aug 4 2009, 12:48 PM)

Great news!
Can somone explain why THX can't adopt the same method of key decryption. Its been declared as 'nothing new'. So how can he survive providing this 'illegal' service and charge for it; if the reason is that THX is afraid becsaue of legal implications?

If it is a partnership, why don't you just announce it?

Because the security of the team and team members is the #1 priority. You want us to paint a huge red X saying "come arrest us" ? The team will NOT run its own server to offer decrypt services, even IF we have successfully decrypted the key data.

[PornOH]

QUOTE(Radament @ Aug 4 2009, 12:09 PM)

I am amazed that they did it for free this far.
Im sure at least half of the people who are complaining here have made quite a few bucks from their work.
Let them have some credit for their work finnaly, its well deserved.

I'm not saying don't let them have some credit - but the majority of the people who want their xbox's modded will never want to open it.  If it were as simple as getting a code to type into your xbox to unlock it, then I'd say the $42 was well spent.. but to have to do all the work yourself, and then spend the money, it puts a damper on things.  Not to mention, if the speed in which the keys are given is not even within hours, then you'll end up having to keep proposed customers' xboxes over night at best, as well as charge them the extra $42 for the service.