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Klutsh

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« Reply #150 on: August 05, 2009, 03:05:00 PM »

QUOTE(xbox360sexual @ Aug 5 2009, 09:59 PM) *

I honestly do not see the big deal with releasing the decrypt method. Either way, MS now know that their current encryption is compromised, so presumably they'll update to another encryption rendering any old tools useless.

Cause the law surrounding cryptography is totally different to just plain reverse engineering.
Would you risk a 25 year prison term just to give millions of people a FREE solution?
I know I would not.
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xbox360sexual

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« Reply #151 on: August 05, 2009, 03:06:00 PM »

QUOTE(Klutsh @ Aug 5 2009, 10:05 PM) View Post

Cause the law surrounding cryptography is totally different to just plain reverse engineering.
Would you risk a 25 year prison term just to give millions of people a FREE solution?
I know I would not.


Releasing crypto anonymously would be easy, I thought this was already established..

Anyway, my main point being that Iriez and co seem to be discouraging the release of decrypt method because it would close up the last remaining hole for Liteon. tbh, just the fact that the encryption has been broken - as proved by foundmy.com , is surely enough for them to change their encryption, would you agree smile.gif
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Klutsh

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« Reply #152 on: August 05, 2009, 03:17:00 PM »

QUOTE(xbox360sexual @ Aug 5 2009, 10:06 PM) *

Releasing crypto anonymously would be easy, I thought this was already established..

Anyway, my main point being that Iriez and co seem to be discouraging the release of decrypt method because it would close up the last remaining hole for Liteon. tbh, just the fact that the encryption has been broken - as proved by foundmy.com , is surely enough for them to change their encryption, would you agree smile.gif

I agree with you in respect of foundmy & ms, but an anonymous release is not possible, it has to be uploaded by someone and their in starts a traceable route.
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« Reply #153 on: August 05, 2009, 03:31:00 PM »

QUOTE(Klutsh @ Aug 5 2009, 10:17 PM) View Post

I agree with you in respect of foundmy & ms, but an anonymous release is not possible, it has to be uploaded by someone and their in starts a traceable route.


 

not when you use a laptop to a wifi connection in the middle of a realy busy highstreet in the back of a van.just jack a flat above a building and if the feds come knocking its at their door.running a pc on a permanent line you have in your home is stupid,a public libray,places like that will get you in trouble if they can positively id you,same for the equipment,you get rid of everything thats incriminating,like shove it in a fire,it destroys everything.

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« Reply #154 on: August 05, 2009, 03:32:00 PM »

QUOTE(Iriez @ Aug 5 2009, 09:38 PM) View Post

Side note:

I have contacted XbotWiz to get connected to the right people to make progress on this front. He has already been given information by a member of JungleFlasher and has not responded. If he is serious about his statements he should have already joined.

I've only just seen your message Iriez, expect a pm back  wink.gif
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« Reply #155 on: August 05, 2009, 03:48:00 PM »

QUOTE(XbotWiz @ Aug 5 2009, 06:09 PM) *

It's being looked into but the new 83850's don't use the same connection points as the older drives, this is why no probe is required to extract the key and to flash.

To be clear you SHOULD still use an xtractor or CK3 Pro (this is what we use), just no need for the probe/spear, there is also some "iffy" rumours going around that using the newest model 360 (F/ 512mb O/B) as a PSU during flashing could result in the system getting flagged due to the system reporting the DVD drive as being disconnected, this is just a rumour but is another reason why using an external extractor connected to your PC is the best way forward.


hi mate
I am one of the earliest unlucky ones on xbox-scene to receive one of these babies.

As I am a software engineer myself I am pretty savy with software/encryption/hardware/programming myself. How can I become a tester? your pm seems to be turned off
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« Reply #156 on: August 05, 2009, 03:49:00 PM »

xboxwiz
Remain independent - this keeps balance and encourages new ideas
I dont have one of those drives but I will send you $24 (reverse of $42) for the effort when I see the program come to light

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« Reply #157 on: August 05, 2009, 03:50:00 PM »

QUOTE(zyo @ Aug 5 2009, 10:48 PM) View Post

hi mate
I am one of the earliest unlucky ones on xbox-scene to receive one of these babies.

As I am a software engineer myself I am pretty savy with software/encryption/hardware/programming myself. How can I become a tester? your pm seems to be turned off

Give me 5 minutes then PM me, the pm's are full again lol
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zyo

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« Reply #158 on: August 05, 2009, 03:57:00 PM »

cool, just sent you an pm
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« Reply #159 on: August 05, 2009, 04:49:00 PM »

QUOTE(Klutsh @ Aug 5 2009, 10:17 PM) View Post

I agree with you in respect of foundmy & ms, but an anonymous release is not possible, it has to be uploaded by someone and their in starts a traceable route.


Come on, 1st of all it could be a cloned modem, sure Iriez is on sbhacker.
2nd Upload to Newsgroups via a SSL tunnel.
3rd Outside America.

Then it spreads easy

Dont think god could prove who uploaded it.


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« Reply #160 on: August 05, 2009, 05:06:00 PM »

QUOTE(Cisk @ Aug 5 2009, 06:49 PM) View Post

Come on, 1st of all it could be a cloned modem, sure Iriez is on sbhacker.



LMAO !!!

I dont think his in SBH lol but that is always an alternative !!!
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zyo

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« Reply #161 on: August 05, 2009, 05:18:00 PM »

Spot on
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« Reply #162 on: August 05, 2009, 05:24:00 PM »

I'm going to make this short as there are a lot of opinions here and time IS valuable!

1) Xbox-scene rocks as does the modding community, i.g. THX, Team Jungle, C4Eva, Iriez, FrostyTheSnowman, just to name a few and the list goes on....
But in addition to these names are the ones whom help create the community, in short, the users. I'm a faithful part of this community and happy to be a user who always wants to share/give my part.

2) Tons of work has gone into the research and development to create the tools, firmware, etc. to help the community achieve all the great strides which have taken place!

3) Give credit to where credit is due. The creators/developers of such work are definitely due!

4) The community are comprised of mostly users, who are in sorts, a large beta testing team and it seems lately, want a free ride always looking for  a hand-out which costs them zilch.
Money is getting tight for everybody across the globe and the ones reading this thread are no exception.

5) This community is a type of Robin Hood society in where we all are "the poor" expecting to receive gifts from "Robin Hood", the as it were “savior”, giving us the way to an easier life.

6) Users should be helping the modding community by giving what they can to the further its growth. Users can’t just take and take without ever expecting to contribute something. Users, you need to put up (money, any amount in a contribution), or shut up. Especially those whom do this for a living, flashing many 360’s in just one day….. These individuals DEFINITELY need to contribute monetarily.
 
THX, Team Jungle, C4Eva…..for all intents and purposes, you are our Robin Hood. Robin Hood never did it for capital gain but for the need of the poor. The big brains, programming experts, technical savvy persons of the teams should be doing it for the glory, not the money.        

And Users, you need to contribute something (money donation)!! With out your Robin Hood, you….we would be no where!

Ok. It wasn’t that short but I had to “share” my feelings.


Peace,
Wantin2mod
     
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« Reply #163 on: August 05, 2009, 05:26:00 PM »

QUOTE(xbox360sexual @ Aug 5 2009, 03:59 PM) View Post

I honestly do not see the big deal with releasing the decrypt method. Either way, MS now know that their current encryption is compromised, so presumably they'll update to another encryption rendering any old tools useless.

Maybe They don't want them to keep on pumping out new drives and patches to fix and render these old tools useless as that's what's been going on since day one. The next fix / patch or whatever may close the door for good.. ie tougher encryption.. So they prob need to take it easy and stop pwnin' M$ every damn time they come out with some new fix and makin' it public right away, so Billy Boy Gates can have his corp grab a copy of it and reverse engineer it and see what the hell these hackers have been slipping into their apps to pwn em and fix it.

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« Reply #164 on: August 05, 2009, 05:39:00 PM »

Its quite clear that THX are in with foundmy,com BUT if this needs to be keeped privite for now thats COOL just think if by letting M$ know this hack. It STOPS all future hacks! CANT we just wait until these drives become wide spread then act! we all know whats coming next year ie. project natal what if they bring new xbox natal with unmodble drives? WOULDN'T WE ALL BE GUTTED THEN!
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