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[HOMiE7]

Iriez, how about free solution to obtain the unique encryption key? Will it be released with new iXtreme?

This post has been edited by HOMiE7: Aug 3 2009, 12:49 PM

[Napek]

QUOTE(deilzfcjk @ Aug 3 2009, 01:34 PM)

Who says you do not need a device to get the key from the drive? Maybe only foundmy has it.  They are just doing for a  fee for right now, until they sell the device later.

lol pls read instructions

[DoomSayerSantos]

QUOTE(deilzfcjk @ Aug 3 2009, 01:34 PM)

Who says you do not need a device to get the key from the drive? Maybe only foundmy has it.  They are just doing for a  fee for right now, until they sell the device later.

Yea right a device that loads .bin files from e-mails.
What have you been smoking.

[Zoneout]

QUOTE(deilzfcjk @ Aug 3 2009, 09:34 PM)

Who says you do not need a device to get the key from the drive? Maybe only foundmy has it.  They are just doing for a  fee for right now, until they sell the device later.

It is extracted via SATA, the information into xxxx.bin by the lite83 prog. The key is probably scrambled or in some location, I'm sure it won't be hard to figure it out. Somebody can go as far as getting that $42 service and compare the file.

It's either:
- He got the prog by Team X earlier than others (probably paid for it).
- Leaked, and using it for-profit

And why would they need a hardware extractor when they are only asking for the .bin file, not the drive.

Guys don't even bother with his service, it's just to suck in the noobs, take your time

- I do have an 83850C drive, so I will be looking at the .bin files late ron, when I have the time.

- Zoneout

[Ceazer]

obviously someone thought this would be a good idea. (foundmy chargin for the key that is..)

EPIC FAIL>>>

[majinsoftware]

Yeah they key looks to be scrambled, Tryed taking it using hex editor then paste into jungle flasher and flashed to a spare 74850C drive. And no luck.

If I knew the key of that drive then Id be able to work out how they have scrambled it.
But there no real point into putting any effort into it when it should be a public method soon.

[kl1k]

$42!!! Are they mental!  

It only costs around $5 to build your own liteon reader.

[idog]

Boomerang can decompile the 32bit version (procedure by procedure, check that child processes are not considered) of the lo83info_32.exe file.  My C is rusty as hell (that's what it's written in), but maybe some guru here can look at the code.

Here's a snippet (of the proc1(), (called from proc4(), called from main()) :

CODE

union { unsigned int[] x1; __size32 x2; } global1;

void proc1();

// address: 0x4036c0
void proc1(__size32 param1, int param2) {
    __size32 ebp;         // r29
    unsigned int ecx;         // r25
    __size32 edx;         // r26
    void *esp;         // r28

    flags = SUBFLAGS32(param2, 4, param2 - 4);
    if (param2 >= 4) {
L2:
        edx = *(&global1 + 32);
        proc1(pc, param1, 1, 4, edx, ebp, param1, param2, param1, 1, edx, esp - 4, flags, ZF, CF);
    } else {
        flags = LOGICALFLAGS32(param2);
        if (param2 < 0) {
            goto L2;
        } else {
            ecx = global1[param2];
            edx = global1[param2];
            if (ecx != -1) {
                proc1(pc, param1, ecx, param2, edx, ebp, param1, param2, param1, ecx, edx, esp - 4, SUBFLAGS32(ecx, -1, ecx + 1), ecx + 1 == 0, ecx < (unsigned int)-1);
            }
        }
    }
    return;
}

[Cedru]

Has anyone gotten this service, and if so, have you been able to apply the 1.6 firmware to it and then write the new firmware back into the Lite-On Drive?

Being that Iriez said there would be an additional step to perform, if you could not apply the 1.6 and write it back into your drive, this service is kind of useless, is it not?

As stated in another thread, I would much rather wait for THX and Team Jungle to do what they do best than to give my key files to someone whom I do not even recall hearing about.

It'd be hilarious if they were giving these keys to M$ for a Ban Wave later on!!!!

Cedru

[Iriez]

QUOTE(HOMiE7 @ Aug 3 2009, 06:48 AM)

Iriez, how about free solution to obtain the unique encryption key? Will it be released with new iXtreme?

Of course there will be a free ixtreme.

That does NOT mean that the team will figure out a way to decrypt the key data. We've obviously already looked at the method, and its nothing new. The key data is encrypted. The exe just dumps that info. Yes it appears to be a slightly altered dvdkey32 ....*shrugs* ....why do double work?

The problem is the encryption. Even if we defeat the crypt we cannot release the algo to the public. That would be incredibly illegal.

foundmy has come up with a solution to what was the main thing holding the release of ixtreme back. The firmware has already been in the works and we've had solutions to read/write firmware. However that is not the same as read/write key data!

The crypt used on these drives are NOT simple. If we found a way to decrypt the key data this moment, you would still never see it released to public. Its simply very illegal.

So I hate to break it to everyone, but its looking like this will be the only solution.

While I agree $42 is abit steep....its a very small price to pay for the modification of what is previously a unmodifiable drive. And for those of you modding for others? Its not coming out of your pocket, so stop complaining. Infact, everyone should stop complaining period. If someone has spent hard work to figure out something then they should be rewarded for it.

Who knows, maybe HyperX will get with MS to sue foundmy? lol j/k

[|GateKeeper|]

What I know is that the coder of the software is introduced to the jungle flasher team by Foundmy.com. supposively he went to foundmy.com and made this offer, and Foundmy.com accepted it. based on what I know the software will take the information that is pulled from the liteon drive, decode it and then give you your key. Also foundmy.com has made a BIG investment on this project to be they only one able to have this service. So in my opnion unless the coder gets bought out there is no free service coming out anytime soon.

THIS IS INSANE!

SOLUTION: come up with a new team to create a new method of decoding this information. whoever is interested and willing to donate and fund project let me know. pm or message me. Also the members of the team will need a feww of the new drives on hand, so if any of you want a free method and a willing to donate new liteon drives pm or message me.  I will donate and older liteon drive(i dont have a new one), connectivity kit, and the usb extractor kit up to 5 units for anyone will to help.

my personal email is [email protected] email if you are interested in this or need the parts as I will donate as many as i can.

OUR GOAL: the dump is full encrypted and needs to be decrypted to read the hex file.

[brain27]

QUOTE(Iriez @ Aug 3 2009, 03:12 PM)

Of course there will be a free ixtreme.

That does NOT mean that the team will figure out a way to decrypt the key data. We've obviously already looked at the method, and its nothing new. The key data is encrypted. The exe just dumps that info. Yes it appears to be a slightly altered dvdkey32 ....*shrugs* ....why do double work?

The problem is the encryption. Even if we defeat the crypt we cannot release the algo to the public. That would be incredibly illegal.

foundmy has come up with a solution to what was the main thing holding the release of ixtreme back. The firmware has already been in the works and we've had solutions to read/write firmware. However that is not the same as read/write key data!

The crypt used on these drives are NOT simple. If we found a way to decrypt the key data this moment, you would still never see it released to public. Its simply very illegal.

So I hate to break it to everyone, but its looking like this will be the only solution.

While I agree $42 is abit steep....its a very small price to pay for the modification of what is previously a unmodifiable drive. And for those of you modding for others? Its not coming out of your pocket, so stop complaining. Infact, everyone should stop complaining period. If someone has spent hard work to figure out something then they should be rewarded for it.

Who knows, maybe HyperX will get with MS to sue foundmy? lol j/k

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!

This cant be happening. So we're forced to pay 42 dollars to foundmy.com to get our key right?
Why cant someone else do the thing foundmy.com is doing but for free. That way we will all get our key!
But then again its not that simple.

THIS IS P1$$1NG ME OFF    

Someone please reassure me that this not happening.

[drgaston]

Iriez ... sorry about the silly question, but if you already have a dump of the new firmware, can't you isolate the 'encrypting the key before sending it to SATA' part and reverse engineer it? This is probably what Foundmy did, so at least it seems possible. This would then just leave the issue of 'how are we going to release it legally' in the air.

This post has been edited by drgaston: Aug 3 2009, 03:30 PM

[HotKnife420]

QUOTE(treyking11 @ Aug 3 2009, 06:58 AM)

$42 bucks? you have to be kidding! i will wait for the smart guys who have brought us this far IN THE NAME OF THE SCENE, NOT THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR to get us past this hurdle. fucking clown shoes...

 I remember when softmods were first coming around on the xbox 1 everyone was screaming "modchips", if nothing else as a way to "finance the scene".

 It's nice to see a change in things, tho.

QUOTE(BigBoss32 @ Aug 3 2009, 09:31 AM)

This doesn't help anyone except the Foundmy people.

It would have been best to wait a little longer for TeamJungle to finalize their free solution and release it once the drives were even more widespread.

If you're thinking of ordering it, wait a few more days and send that $42 to TeamJungle.

 It's most economical, yes, but what's wrong with competition in this section of the scene? Why should Team HyperX be more deserving at a point in time where the competition has the jump? I'm not saying that they're not; just saying that foundmy is doing nothing wrong, here. The fact that it's pricey is irrelevant. They did the work to devise a solution for those drives, and therefore are entitled to distribute it by the means they consider necessary to do so. My guess is that the people behind foundmy are probably like "engineer mercenaries".

 Either way, nothing's wrong with them offering to do this for people. Unless, of course, you think they need to shut down the firmware flashers forum, as well...

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Iriez says that a new Ixtreme is coming very soon, he doesnt state an alternative free key extraction method is though. As I read it, its just a firmware to flash once the key is known. I have no doubt that one will surface in due course, but it could still be quite a wait.

One thing I do think though, is that the new Liteon firmware must be very similar, if not near identical to the old Liteon, as Ixtreme for the 83850 seems to have potentialy become available very quickly.

It will of course be nice if a free solution does become available, but im not so sure it will just yet.

 It should be about the same difference as a Samsung with ms25 firmware versus one with ms28. Team HyperX has also announced earlier that they had a way to extract the keys from the new drive, and it'd be released when these drives start popping up off retail shelves.

[|GateKeeper|]

What I know is that the coder of the software is introduced to the jungle flasher team by Foundmy.com. supposively he went to foundmy.com and made this offer, and Foundmy.com accepted it. based on what I know the software will take the information that is pulled from the liteon drive, decode it and then give you your key. Also foundmy.com has made a BIG investment on this project to be they only one able to have this service. So in my opnion unless the coder gets bought out there is no free service coming out anytime soon.

THIS IS INSANE!

SOLUTION: come up with a new team to create a new method of decoding this information. whoever is interested and willing to donate and fund project let me know. pm or message me. Also the members of the team will need a feww of the new drives on hand, so if any of you want a free method and a willing to donate new liteon drives pm or message me. I will donate and older liteon drive(i dont have a new one), connectivity kit, and the usb extractor kit up to 5 units for anyone will to help.

my personal email is [email protected] email if you are interested in this or need the parts as I will donate as many as i can.

OUR GOAL: the dump is full encrypted and needs to be decrypted to read the hex file.