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DanB91

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« Reply #60 on: August 03, 2009, 10:08:00 AM »

QUOTE(brain27 @ Aug 3 2009, 11:59 AM) *

Hey!!! We might still be in luck. (solution+Torrents)

That is if someone leaks the algorithm, which I doubt.  This is not large company, this seems to be a small company with a few people and thus less chance for leakage.

Though, it would be VERY nice to be able to hack the lite-on without any extra hardware needed.
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« Reply #61 on: August 03, 2009, 10:10:00 AM »

Can we find where the key is in the file that is generated by this program or is the file encrypted and has to be decrypted by foundmy I wonder.

ONCE AGAIN PEOPLE AVOID FOUNDMY.COM THEY AREN'T NECESSARILY SCAMMERS BUT THEY HAVE A HABIT OF NOT GETTING ORDERS OUT.   MOST LIKELY JUST AN UNORGANIZED BUSINESS.
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« Reply #62 on: August 03, 2009, 10:12:00 AM »

QUOTE(DanB91 @ Aug 3 2009, 05:08 PM) View Post

That is if someone leaks the algorithm, which I doubt.  This is not large company, this seems to be a small company with a few people and thus less chance for leakage.


Got my hopes up for nothing then.."*%@!#*"..foundmy.com  grr.gif
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« Reply #63 on: August 03, 2009, 10:13:00 AM »

i think this is smaller than small..i think its a 1 man operation..he sells a few bits and pieces and also the firmware is done via email and is probably even automated..

1 man is going to get very rich very quickly and with any luck will become the subject of all the bad things associated with greed..i see concrete slippers or being someones biatch in his 8ft x 8ft house lol..
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« Reply #64 on: August 03, 2009, 10:15:00 AM »

Oh, c'mon! Releasing encryption algorithm is illegal, and iXtreme is legal? WTF? iXtreme is based on original though.

Also:
1. JungleFlasher contains encryption algorithm for current Lite-on iXtreme - it is legal? Looks like yes!
2. Hitachi's iXtreme pack contains original firmwares for all Hitachi drives - it is legal? Looks like yes!

So:
1. Why new encryption algorithm is illegal?
2. Why releasing original formware for Lite-on is illegal?
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DanB91

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« Reply #65 on: August 03, 2009, 10:17:00 AM »

QUOTE(HOMiE7 @ Aug 3 2009, 12:15 PM) *

Oh, release encryption algorithm is illegal, and iXtreme is legal? WTF? iXtreme is based on original though.

Exactly.  THX is already circumventing copyright protection.  Isn't that also "very" illegal?
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« Reply #66 on: August 03, 2009, 10:29:00 AM »

QUOTE(DanB91 @ Aug 4 2009, 02:17 AM) View Post

Exactly.  THX is already circumventing copyright protection.  Isn't that also "very" illegal?


It's nothing more than a cop-out.

The fact would be, the foundmy.com guy which is a one-man business, paid Team Hypher X mega bucks not to release the solution but for himself.

Genius, all the world's business to himself. But also selfish in my eyes tongue.gif
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« Reply #67 on: August 03, 2009, 10:33:00 AM »

iriez i urge you to NOT release ix 1.6 for the new lite-on revision..
i really hope that iriez isnt linked to or blamed for the greed of foundmy.com. i have allready seen 1 or 2 posts where the mood is starting to change..even though releasing ix1.6 will inadvertantly make foundmy.com extremely rich..

can we not start something like seti lol..all the xbox-scene users download some prog and we can all link our pc's together to break the algorithm..

please please people direct the anger at where it should be which is foundmy.com direction..
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« Reply #68 on: August 03, 2009, 10:35:00 AM »

QUOTE(brain27 @ Aug 3 2009, 09:28 AM) View Post

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!! mad.gif

This cant be happening. So we're forced to pay 42 dollars to foundmy.com to get our key right?
Why cant someone else do the thing foundmy.com is doing but for free. That way we will all get our key!
But then again its not that simple.

THIS IS P1$$1NG ME OFF mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif

Someone please reassure me that this not happening.



It is happening. Stop crying.

Why does everyone assume everything is free? Guys, I have invested 1/3 of my life to this scene for free. I've provided all of my services for free. I've established teams and groups that have made this scene possible. All for free.

So one would think me of all people would be upset by someone trying to charge?

Im sorry, but im not. Work is work. Fair is fair. If someone wants to reverse engineer the process and give it away for free (and risk being put in jail for life while your at it) feel free to do so.

You people cry about 40 dollars when a game costs 60. EVERY game. Yet you mod your 360 once and every game is free. Dont try to deny that it is the main purpose of modifying your drive...it is the ONLY reason (Backup yea, mhm.) So the more you cry about this, the bigger a hypocrite you look, and the more immature, childish and frankly....cheap as shit.

QUOTE(drgaston @ Aug 3 2009, 09:29 AM) View Post

Iriez ... sorry about the silly question, but if you already have a dump of the new firmware, can't you isolate the 'encrypting the key before sending it to SATA' part and reverse engineer it? This is probably what Foundmy did, so at least it seems possible. This would then just leave the issue of 'how are we going to release it legally' in the air.


There is no legal way to release it. The crypto involved is very advanced. Some of the best hackers in this industry have been continuously stumped by it. Good luck, but I would be willing to give 1:5 odd's that no one is going to come up with a solution if we dont. Feel free to PM me your wagers.

QUOTE(HotKnife420 @ Aug 3 2009, 09:30 AM) View Post

I remember when softmods were first coming around on the xbox 1 everyone was screaming "modchips", if nothing else as a way to "finance the scene".

 It's nice to see a change in things, tho.
 It's most economical, yes, but what's wrong with competition in this section of the scene? Why should Team HyperX be more deserving at a point in time where the competition has the jump? I'm not saying that they're not; just saying that foundmy is doing nothing wrong, here. The fact that it's pricey is irrelevant. They did the work to devise a solution for those drives, and therefore are entitled to distribute it by the means they consider necessary to do so. My guess is that the people behind foundmy are probably like "engineer mercenaries".

 Either way, nothing's wrong with them offering to do this for people. Unless, of course, you think they need to shut down the firmware flashers forum, as well...
 It should be about the same difference as a Samsung with ms25 firmware versus one with ms28. Team HyperX has also announced earlier that they had a way to extract the keys from the new drive, and it'd be released when these drives start popping up off retail shelves.


HyperX has not announced that we will have a way to extract the keys from the drive. I do not know where you got this information from, but its blantantly false. It was stated that a solution was found, but that details needed to be worked out.

As stated earlier in this thread, the encrypted key data was one of the main obstacles holding ixtreme back for this new drive. If we cannot deliver a clean efficient and legal solution to the problem, then we cannot deliver. Since there is a solution, now we can deliver the firmware.


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« Reply #69 on: August 03, 2009, 10:36:00 AM »

I am very sceptical of Iriez's posts. You seem to be very doom and gloom about this. Its not possible? There is no other way? Well if this isnt a scam, Obviously someone did it. It will be done again. It is highly illegal? This made me laugh... Highly illegal? Diffrent levels of illegal in this scene.

People need to get off Iriez's shaft. $42 dollars is a rip, we all know it. Blatent Advertising of some quick money. I give 60% a scam. Ive not heard off anyone with this actually working. Algorithums get published into free applications all the time. Every day.

It will be hacked, And it will be free. Just give it time.
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« Reply #70 on: August 03, 2009, 10:48:00 AM »

QUOTE(Iriez @ Aug 3 2009, 05:35 PM) *

As stated earlier in this thread, the encrypted key data was one of the main obstacles holding ixtreme back for this new drive. If we cannot deliver a clean efficient and legal solution to the problem, then we cannot deliver. Since there is a solution, now we can deliver the firmware.


Blatent sell out.

At least come out an say it. Don't blame you guys tho...reminds me of the swine selling the "passkey" for the old hitachi drives when a known software solution was available...

Here we go again, it's just one big false economy...Team Xectuter\Irez\HyperX\Foundmy...all one an the same...

Nowt wrong with that tho, you keep it going, guess if there's some money coming in it keeps development going, but $42? Fuck that shit.
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« Reply #71 on: August 03, 2009, 10:49:00 AM »

QUOTE(HOMiE7 @ Aug 3 2009, 11:15 AM) View Post

Oh, c'mon! Releasing encryption algorithm is illegal, and iXtreme is legal? WTF? iXtreme is based on original though.

Also:
1. JungleFlasher contains encryption algorithm for current Lite-on iXtreme - it is legal? Looks like yes!
2. Hitachi's iXtreme pack contains original firmwares for all Hitachi drives - it is legal? Looks like yes!

So:
1. Why new encryption algorithm is illegal?
2. Why releasing original formware for Lite-on is illegal?


Distributing a modified firmware is nothing compared to the possibilities involved with the crypto. The problem is, there is alot of information in regards to the crypt that is not public. Had I the ability to educate you all, you would understand. Unfortunately that information cannot be disclosed, so you will either trust me or you wont. Im neither pleased nor bothered by either. Im just another servant of this scene.

QUOTE(tokyodrifte @ Aug 3 2009, 11:36 AM) View Post

I am very sceptical of Iriez's posts. You seem to be very doom and gloom about this. Its not possible? There is no other way? Well if this isnt a scam, Obviously someone did it. It will be done again. It is highly illegal? This made me laugh... Highly illegal? Diffrent levels of illegal in this scene.

People need to get off Iriez's shaft. $42 dollars is a rip, we all know it. Blatent Advertising of some quick money. I give 60% a scam. Ive not heard off anyone with this actually working. Algorithums get published into free applications all the time. Every day.

It will be hacked, And it will be free. Just give it time.


I already stated that I felt the price was steep for the services offered. You need to learn to read before you start discussing your interaction with "my shaft". It is not a scam. Do you think I would have posted news on this if we had not verified? Please.

It will be hacked, and free? Ok.

Have fun modding that PS3.
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« Reply #72 on: August 03, 2009, 10:51:00 AM »

If the guys running that site have found a method, it's only a matter of time before it gets released to the public somehow.

No one is going to jail for life releasing drive firmware and hacks, look Iriez, your not in jail are you? Sure I don't know exactly how it's done ( :-/ ) but games get ripped every day and no ones going to jail, just an example.

I urge people to wait a while and NOT pay a cent to foundmy.com.
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« Reply #73 on: August 03, 2009, 10:57:00 AM »

Couldnt who can disassemble the key reader program, alter it to ready the entire BIOS/firmware of this new drive and also an older drive?
Then run it through a disassembler and see what the differences might be doing?
*I know I cannot do this - just a thought
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« Reply #74 on: August 03, 2009, 11:04:00 AM »

QUOTE(robo989 @ Aug 3 2009, 05:48 PM) View Post

At least come out an say it. Don't blame you guys tho...reminds me of the swine selling the "passkey" for the old hitachi drives when a known software solution was available...


Off topic, but, Id love to see this that you speak of.
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