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[ssj4android]

QUOTE(Iriez @ Apr 27 2009, 01:22 AM)

This release has nothing to do with AP25. Its not even been proven that it is being utilized yet. There are a few members in our crew and in the scene that have been aware of AP25 for about a year. The reason we do not publicize such information is because of questions and presumptions like the one above. No, what you are not doing is bad, just atypical. We do not want to have to put out the fires when the fires have been created out of recklessness, ignorance, or misunderstandings. People ask about 'ap25' when they dont have the slightest clue what it is.

Please do not ask about AP25 or anything related to it. It is a non-issue for the moment. When it becomes a issue, we will address it.

This is the technical discussion forum, what's wrong with some technical discussion about it?
First, I don't see any link in the stickies to information as to how normal Xbox 360 disc authentication works. Anyone know a site that explains that?
Second, the article from earlier says it involves an encrypted LBA check? So it's just requesting data at a certain LBA? Isn't that what it does normally for reading the disc? Any more details about that?
Lastly, is it proven that it's not being utilized? Microsoft seems like the type to test it or actually implement checks for banning on only a few 360s at a time. How would it fail? By returning something that would pretty obviously indicate a modded drive or something more like a dirty disc/drive failure?

This post has been edited by ssj4android: Yesterday, 02:16 AM

[Jumpy_Beans]

Awesome News!! i did not know it cost that much to hack the drives!! bravo! great info!! keep it up!!

[OneRicardo]

I have a few questions about this new firmware, because i have 1.5.1 and i don't know really know some things.

1º- To upgrade to 1.6 is necessary to have CK3 and all the other stuf or can i just simple flash like hitachi, samsung, etc... ? ( I have the key )
2º- It is really important to upgrade to 1.6 or  can I keep the 1.5.1 without risk of being banned from live ?
3º-Is the P45 chipset compatible with Liteon or i need the VIA chipset ? I ask this because my liteon as not flashed by me.

Thanks.

This post has been edited by OneRicardo: Apr 29 2009, 06:34 PM

[HotKnife420]

QUOTE(amble @ Apr 28 2009, 02:10 PM)

Thanks, that was helpful.

Does this mean we should be free of iextreme updates until wave 4 is utilised, as I was told with the NXE we can expect a lot more frequent smaller updates now?

Ta

Well, the simplest points it means are:

1. ixtreme will boot any future "wave" (ie: 4, 5, etc) via a boot disc; no need to upgrade firmware when a new "wave" arrives
2. Any existing "check" will still be performed on any and all backups, so it's important to make sure they're made properly
3. 0800 mode in case you use the drive to create your own backups (as opposed to a kreon flashed drive).

Or even simpler, it's "wave-proof" via boot disc

Keep in mind that you will still need to update your firmware if something else in the firmware updates (ie: new XBL checks) are addressed.

 Hope that cleared up some more about it.

QUOTE(OneRicardo @ Apr 29 2009, 05:26 PM)

I have a few questions about this new firmware, because i have 1.5.1 and i don't know really know some things.

1º- To upgrade to 1.6 is necessary to have CK3 and all the other stuf or can i just simple flash like hitachi, samsung, etc... ? ( I have the key )
2º- It is really important to upgrade to 1.6 or  can I keep the 1.5.1 without risk of being banned from live ?
3º-Is the P45 chipset compatible with Liteon or i need the VIA chipset ? I ask this because my liteon as not flashed by me.

Thanks.

1. If you have the key, you can flash just like a benq
2. You can keep 1.51 for now, but when a new wave shows up, you'll still need an upgrade
3. Look to see what your Southbridge is; ICHX (Intel Chipset) works well, and I believe many nForce chipsets are supported. I'd recommend buying a VIA card (they're cheap @ newegg)

[run187]

any chipset should work and if it flashed already should be able to just use sata

[BlackWar]

For now sticking with 1.51 should be fine, but remember, 1.6 also has fixes for SS V2 checking, and the 0800 code has the ability to properly dump SS V2 (does kreon drives properly rip SS V2?)

QUOTE

-Strict Wave 3 compliance! hybrid (modified disks) will not boot!
-Strict drive speed compliance - 12x only for game discs!
-Support for SS V2!
-Integrated 0800 for game dumping including SS v2!
-Full support for all known game exceptions! eg ddr etc!
-One shot boot mode! - allows a one off boot of gamedisc without -stealth/partition checks (will still use stealth), use activate.iso disk -to activate each time!
-Support for easy drive key/version info cmd, same as liteon!
-Strict stealth/wave checking, one shot boot mode will boot wave(x)!

To me it seems that 1.51 was a "quick fix" to get past wave 3, but 1.6 is a more proper fix that also includes SS v2.

This post has been edited by BlackWar: Apr 30 2009, 02:59 PM

[SlayerQC]

QUOTE(BlackWar @ Apr 30 2009, 06:49 AM)

(does kreon drives properly rip SS V2?)

Would like to know too!

[ric27]

I must admit, I never donate money to websites, but damn, these guys deserve it!

Hefty donation sent

[fatvince]

QUOTE(HotKnife420 @ Apr 29 2009, 10:56 PM)

• You can keep 1.51 for now, but when a new wave shows up, you'll still need an upgrade

But didn't 1.51 remove the checking of the wave size? If it's not checked, why would wave4 or wave5 not boot?

[keztheking]

QUOTE(ric27 @ May 1 2009, 03:10 AM)

I must admit, I never donate money to websites, but damn, these guys deserve it!

Hefty donation sent

spot on m8 lets hope everyone does the same these guys deserve it after all the hardwork and money they've spent on it!

[oinkoff]

QUOTE(Xbox-Scene @ Apr 27 2009, 05:31 AM)

-Support for SS V2!

Can You tell more  something on this subject.

QUOTE(BlackWar @ Apr 30 2009, 02:49 PM)

(does kreon drives properly rip SS V2?)

QUOTE(SlayerQC @ May 1 2009, 01:05 AM)

Would like to know too!

Me too.

[BlackWar]

Well, what I do know of SS (or SS.bin as it was called) is the security sectors that the 360 looks for as a part of the security checks in whole (region, SS, PFI, DMI and Video partitions make up the security of the game disks thus far that I know of).

What I dont understand is what is the difference between current SS and SS V2 and if kreon drives properly rip it (or, to boggle peoples minds even more, is this a "baby step" towards the whole AP2.5 thing?)

This post has been edited by BlackWar: May 1 2009, 08:08 PM

[oinkoff]

QUOTE(BlackWar @ May 1 2009, 07:58 PM)

Well, what I do know of SS (or SS.bin as it was called) is the security sectors that the 360 looks for as a part of the security checks in whole (region, SS, PFI, DMI and Video partitions make up the security of the game disks thus far that I know of).

What I dont understand is what is the difference between current SS and SS V2 and if kreon drives properly rip it (or, to boggle peoples minds even more, is this a "baby step" towards the whole AP2.5 thing?)

Iriez write "This release has nothing to do with AP25" so this has to be something different.

[keztheking]

no ones sure when and if ms will use there ap25 technolgy for sure mate!

[BlackWar]

true, I have read that and do understand why they are "watching what will happen with it". Its like a storm brewing in the distance. It could be nothing more then just dark clouds that do nothing, or it could produce an F5 tornado that will throw everybody's arse into the land of MS....err...OZ. Nobody knows what will happen until that storm brews a little longer.

the real burning questions here ATM is:

1: What is the significant difference in SS V2 and...
2: Will kreon drives be able to properly extract it?

This post has been edited by BlackWar: May 2 2009, 10:49 AM