Topic: iXtreme 1.6 to be released on 3 Year anniversary for ixtreme 1.0 (Read 1264 times)

mannyman · « **Reply #45 on:** April 27, 2009, 05:57:00 PM »

QUOTE(harrytasker @ Apr 27 2009, 06:17 PM)

What's the use of this feature??

iXtreme 1.6 includes an activate.iso image that you can burn to activate a temporary boot mode that overrides the stealth checks in the ixtreme firmware.

Further info: Some users have older game rips that do not pass the strict stealth/wave tests checked by ixtreme that declare a disc is safe to use on XBL. With a typical ixtreme firmware, if one of these tests fail the disc will not execute/boot which then saves the user from possibly getting banned for booting a disc that is not 100% stealth compliant. With the new 1.6 firmware, you have the option to override this check so that you can proceed to play the game - however in doing so you are acknowledging the increased risk of a ban if you somehow connect to the internet with the console. I would advise that you unplug your xbox from your LAN before booting a disc in this manner.

c4eva has noted that stealth sectors will still be read back to the drive, if such sectors are present on the rip.

Currently, users who want to play these older rips must use the older Xtreme (not iXtreme) firmware, which I don't think is safe for XBL even for a 100% stealth compliant disc. I believe this update should eliminate the need for anyone to use any firmware other than iX 1.6, since it is currently XBL safe, can rip discs, and can boot both stealth/non-stealth media.

SlayerQC · « **Reply #46 on:** April 27, 2009, 06:03:00 PM »

This 1.6 firmware got me all confused and worried.
If I update, will functionality be the same?

I mean:
Will it play my already burned wave 1 and 2 backups or will I have to backup again and/or use that disc frosty is talking about??

-Strict Wave 3 compliance! hybrid (modified disks) will not boot! << I dont get this also.

Anyone care to explain in "for dummy" language?

This post has been edited by SlayerQC: Apr 28 2009, 01:04 AM

Toddler · « **Reply #47 on:** April 27, 2009, 06:22:00 PM »

QUOTE(mannyman @ Apr 27 2009, 05:49 PM)

iXtreme 1.6 includes an activate.iso image that you can burn to activate a temporary boot mode that overrides the stealth checks in the ixtreme firmware.

Further info: Some users have older game rips that do not pass the strict stealth/wave tests checked by ixtreme that declare a disc is safe to use on XBL. With a typical ixtreme firmware, if one of these tests fail the disc will not execute/boot which then saves the user from possibly getting banned for booting a disc that is not 100% stealth compliant. With the new 1.6 firmware, you have the option to override this check so that you can proceed to play the game

So it's ok to give people the option to completely bypass all stealth checks, yet it's not ok to give them the option to run at 8x/5x. Because slower speed *might* be potentially detectable by Microsoft, it's just too dangerous an option to offer. But completely bypassing all stealth checking is just fine.

Aldanga · « **Reply #48 on:** April 27, 2009, 06:31:00 PM »

QUOTE(Toddler @ Apr 27 2009, 06:14 PM)

So it's ok to give people the option to completely bypass all stealth checks, yet it's not ok to give them the option to run at 8x/5x. Because slower speed *might* be potentially detectable by Microsoft, it's just too dangerous an option to offer. But completely bypassing all stealth checking is just fine.

I think that has more to do with the drive speed being set in stone, where if you use a boot ISO, you're physically taking a medium and inserting it into your Xbox in order to boot a game which otherwise wouldn't boot. If you have figured out how to get that boot disc, you would probably understand the risks associated with it.

But that's total speculation on my part.

Glad to hear about the f/w release. I shall finally update from 1.5! Many thanks to C4E and the entire team.

JD45 · « **Reply #49 on:** April 27, 2009, 07:48:00 PM »

QUOTE(SlayerQC @ Apr 27 2009, 03:55 PM)

This 1.6 firmware got me all confused and worried.
If I update, will functionality be the same?

I mean:
Will it play my already burned wave 1 and 2 backups or will I have to backup again and/or use that disc frosty is talking about??

-Strict Wave 3 compliance! hybrid (modified disks) will not boot! << I dont get this also.
Anyone care to explain in "for dummy" language?

yes they will still boot fine. the strict wave 3 compliance means that discs that had the wave 3 modified won't boot. some people were modifying their iso's that had wave 3 so that they would be able to play on older ixtreme's, you won't be able to use those on ix1.6

OggyUK · « **Reply #50 on:** April 27, 2009, 08:16:00 PM »

QUOTE(Toddler @ Apr 28 2009, 12:14 AM)

So it's ok to give people the option to completely bypass all stealth checks, yet it's not ok to give them the option to run at 8x/5x. Because slower speed *might* be potentially detectable by Microsoft, it's just too dangerous an option to offer. But completely bypassing all stealth checking is just fine.

So I make a pefectly fine rip of a Wave 4 game using my Kreon, abgx cant verify as I didnt upload stealth (90% of people dont try to anyway).....

Should I wait for iX 1.7?

Nah, I know my rip is good, so I use the one shot boot disc to play it.

I also own a Hitachi drive (hypothetically) so, its +3 weeks from 1.7's first coding til release......Unless I use the one shot disc.....

Drive Speed? MS can set that over XBL if they want afaik they do.

...

gsharpshooter · « **Reply #51 on:** April 27, 2009, 08:58:00 PM »

alright whos going to go on live with this update first?? SHOT NOT

jk by the way thanx i will b donating

kaneda_77 · « **Reply #52 on:** April 27, 2009, 09:37:00 PM »

one more happy camper

HotKnife420 · « **Reply #53 on:** April 28, 2009, 04:11:00 AM »

QUOTE(SlayerQC @ Apr 27 2009, 11:55 PM)

-Strict Wave 3 compliance! hybrid (modified disks) will not boot! << I dont get this also.
Anyone care to explain in "for dummy" language?

Here's a quick rundown. Each game has a video partition on it (containing the video telling you to put the game in an xbox 360). So far, there are 3 different sizes (or "waves") of video partitions. Before ix1.51, there were only 2 "waves", but when the 3rd wave came along, a new fw was needed to tell the xbox it was ok to boot that disc (because previous ixtreme firmwares would see the video partition as "unknown" and figure it could be a bad backup that could get someone banned).

Generally, these partitions are referred to as "waves" because after a certain point, all subsequent games will have the same video partition (ie: first wave 3 game comes out, then until wave 4 appears, all games should have wave 3 video partitions, instead of wave 1 or 2).

There are also exceptions to the "rule", such as [forum rules suggest I probably shouldn't name the game], which should have a wave 3 video partition according to the calender, but has a wave 2 video partition, instead (not that the date is the only thing, but no need to get deeper than we already are

).

Since all known "exceptions" and "waves" are known to ix firmware (in order to better check your backups), anything that's not known will appear (to the firmware) as "possible corruption/bad data". The boot disc will tell the firmware that the backup you are about to play has all necessary data, and that it's safe for the console to boot the disc.

amble · « **Reply #54 on:** April 28, 2009, 08:18:00 AM »

QUOTE(HotKnife420 @ Apr 28 2009, 09:03 AM)

Here's a quick rundown.

Thanks, that was helpful.

Does this mean we should be free of iextreme updates until wave 4 is utilised, as I was told with the NXE we can expect a lot more frequent smaller updates now?

Ta

doubleu · « **Reply #55 on:** April 28, 2009, 10:16:00 AM »

why does every change/fix/addition have an exclamation point at the end

eCrack · « **Reply #56 on:** April 28, 2009, 01:02:00 PM »

Just in case anyone wonders the same thing I did, xtreme was originally release on May 14, 2006.

http://www.xbox-scen...FyprcUrLDTt.php

BlackWar · « **Reply #57 on:** April 28, 2009, 02:23:00 PM »

This is how I understand the features of the new FW (and please correct me if I am wrong).....

1. All PROPERLY made backups created up to this point will still boot on 1.6 just fine.
2. Any games that *should* have wave 3 (but dont) wont boot.
3. This new FW will also contain the 0800 code so it can be used for creating backups WITHOUT having to constantly re-flash the drive (which is really handy for cheep SOB's like me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ).

And what activate.ISO is for (I am guessing here, so if I am wrong PLEASE correct me).....
1: Will allow any "xtreme" or modified wave 3 backups to load, along with any future "wave X" games (until updated firmware that supports it is released that is).
2: Will still allow full stealth on backups that dont originally contain the proper stealth info meaning they *should* be live safe (I.E. tells the fw to allow the next game to load with all stealth options enabled, bypassing stealth checks.)

This post has been edited by BlackWar: Apr 28 2009, 09:25 PM

buzz44 · « **Reply #58 on:** April 28, 2009, 04:21:00 PM »

I'd like to add a shout out to the dumbest, naive POS on the internet, TexT.

Look what he wrote in the original Xtreme v1 thread lol.

QUOTE(TexT @ May 15 2006, 12:25 PM)

This hack is worthless and unless they can crack the game encryption this means nothing. All future games will have code to fix the hack, so that means games that launch in a month or 2 will break the hack.
Games not hackable = worthles system hack.

Bravo Text you fucking douche LOL. How utterly wrong and stupid you were, and were.

Back OT, great news about iXtreme 1.6 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).

Bon Scott · « **Reply #59 on:** April 28, 2009, 04:45:00 PM »

Cheers!!! Long Live iXtreme!
Thanks for the coming 1.6 release!

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