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[GDT]

If I previously backed up my dummy.bin, created with jungleflasher 0.43 when flashed my liteon to 1.5, do I need to recreate it with the new jungleflasher? Or can I go straight to patch firmware with my old dummy.bin, erase liteon and reflash?

[LiarInGlass]

You can use your old dummy

[NLCandyman]

QUOTE(ssj4android @ Mar 9 2009, 06:28 AM)

I thought the forum position was that the online database shouldn't be used?  
It did say the DMI or PFI for my own Guitar Hero 3 rip was wrong, was that because my disc was dirty/scratched?
What games are Wave 3? It would be nice if they released a version that just adds definitions for the new discs as well as a version like this..

For now the WAVE 3 games are: Major League BaseBall 2K9 and Tom Clancys H.A.W.X.

[Dracula72]

is there any chance of getting ixtreme 1.51 at 8X Speed Plz thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleeping.gif)

This post has been edited by Dracula72: Mar 9 2009, 05:00 PM

[BoNg420]

QUOTE(Dracula72 @ Mar 9 2009, 01:43 PM)

is there any chance of getting ixtreme 1.51 at 8X Speed Plz thanks

No C4e isn't releasing 8x firmware because it could be a risk to getting banned on live if MS can detect the drive speed.

Turn up your TV or surround, and live with it.

[billpen]

QUOTE(Dracula72 @ Mar 9 2009, 07:43 PM)

is there any chance of getting ixtreme 1.51 at 8X Speed Plz thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleeping.gif)

At least for benq it can be done easily. Information can be found here http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=671445

[Pee]

QUOTE(SabbathPwns @ Mar 7 2009, 11:57 PM)

So i just finished flashing my hitachi 59 and it seems to have worked fine. it boots retail and backups but when i did a dump after the flash, it says the firmware was still stock. is that normal?

QUOTE(SabbathPwns @ Mar 9 2009, 06:14 AM)

anyone have a answer to this?

my 47 did this if i dumped in classic, dumped in raw and it reported as 1.51... strange..?!

[Foreversevgi]

im having an issue getting these newer jungleflashers even to load, it just locks up my pc right when i click it to load. however .26 loads just fine not sure whats going on

[TorchMach1]

Just wanted to post a little tip for anyone else who may be having a problem flashing their Sammy with JungleFlasher.  Under the MKTFlash32 tab the only options for sata that were available to me were on my VIA 6421 card.  I couldn't get the VIA 6421 to work for anything.  The system kept locking up.  I noticed that my onboard nForce sata connections weren't even available.  They were enabled by unchecking the "VIA ports only" under the DVDKey32 tab.  I was then able to flash my Sammy with the onboard nForce sata port.  Anyone else experienced the same problems?

[Toddler]

QUOTE(BoNg420 @ Mar 9 2009, 12:50 PM)

No C4e isn't releasing 8x firmware because it could be a risk to getting banned on live if MS can detect the drive speed.

But not checking the video partition is cool?  Personally, I think the idea that MS can detect drive speed is totally washed.  A lot riskier is the fact that everyone is rolling naked with iX1.51.  If my backup is good, I may as well use Xtreme firmware...I see little difference now.

QUOTE(billpen @ Mar 9 2009, 01:41 PM)

At least for benq it can be done easily. Information can be found here http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=671445

Nice to see my work still helping people.  The same exact process works on the Samsung also, you just have to compare the firmware versions to find the proper locations and values.  Obviously, Team Jungle could provide the details on how edit the Lite-On firmware, if they were willing to let people make their own choices and take their own risks.

[notrain]

QUOTE(Toddler @ Mar 10 2009, 04:59 AM)

But not checking the video partition is cool?  Personally, I think the idea that MS can detect drive speed is totally washed.  A lot riskier is the fact that everyone is rolling naked with iX1.51.  If my backup is good, I may as well use Xtreme firmware...I see little difference now.

I agree with you there. I won't be flashing this new firmware until I absolutely have to (i.e. all new games have wave3 video). I'd really like a firmware version which simply adds the new structure to the existing ones, I mean let's face it, Microsoft won't be changing disc structures weekly or even monthly so adding new disc structures as they are employed should not be too much of a hassle. Personally I can live with flashing my drive twice a year.

[caster420]

QUOTE(Toddler @ Mar 10 2009, 12:03 AM)

If my backup is good, I may as well use Xtreme firmware...I see little difference now.

That just shows you know very little - if you know your backups are good, there is no need for iXtreme. If you truly made your own backups, you could use Xtreme without an issue.   I dont think you understand how he altered the firmware to allow this new wave to boot - checks are still performed.

iXtreme still has many checks in place to ensure the integrity of a backup and prevent people from booting something that isn't proper. How can you on one hand make a statement like, "I think the idea that MS can detect drive speed is totally washed", and continue to modify the speed of your drive, yet you scrutinize relaxation of another check.  What is your basis for that statement?  Gut feeling?  C4E surely had a good reason for not releasing multi-speed firmware yet you continue to state that it is fine.  Sure, you haven't been banned but who's to say the day wont come?  Oh, and let me guess - when it does come, you'll blame the relaxation of other checks.  If you are expecting the firmware to give you absolute security from LIVE and not need to worry about your backups, you are sadly mistaken.  The onus is still on the end user - if you are concerned that you could possibly get banned, you're playing the wrong game.

C4E has the best interest of the user in mind.  He released a fix within a week or so of the issue coming about.  He made everyone very aware of what the firmware modification was and how to ensure your backups are proper.   That being said, i don't think he wants to be releasing regular updates either.  He is an extremely busy person and we should all be grateful that there are still updates to the firmware when issues do arise.

QUOTE(Toddler @ Mar 10 2009, 12:03 AM)

Obviously, Team Jungle could provide the details on how edit the Lite-On firmware, if they were willing to let people make their own choices and take their own risks.

Once again, lack of understanding.  C4E didnt just hex the values to change the speed.  He wrote routines to support it.  Those have not been removed from the firmware that used to support it but were not written into Lite-On firmware and they never will be.  

Here you want "people to make their own choices and take their own risks" but above you want absolute security and protection?  I'm confused...

Caster.

[Exobex]

QUOTE(notrain @ Mar 10 2009, 04:05 AM)

I agree with you there. I won't be flashing this new firmware until I absolutely have to (i.e. all new games have wave3 video).

All new games have wave3 video.  We've only seen 2 so far, the rest will as well.

QUOTE(notrain @ Mar 10 2009, 04:05 AM)

I'd really like a firmware version which simply adds the new structure to the existing ones, I mean let's face it, Microsoft won't be changing disc structures weekly or even monthly so adding new disc structures as they are employed should not be too much of a hassle. Personally I can live with flashing my drive twice a year.

If the 1.51 method wasn't employed, that's exactly what I'd expect them to do, because now they have a guaranteed means of upsetting iXtreme without having to invent new protection schemes.

What's wrong with using ABGX to check your freshly-ripped game before you burn it?  Your current ones are OK anyway as long as 1.5 booted them, so it's just the games you backup from now on that need checking.

[mik30]

QUOTE(caster420 @ Mar 10 2009, 06:51 AM)

That just shows you know very little - if you know your backups are good, there is no need for iXtreme. If you truly made your own backups, you could use Xtreme without an issue.   I dont think you understand how he altered the firmware to allow this new wave to boot - checks are still performed.

Well, a compare of the 1.5 to the 1.51 shows that the changes
are a few added conditional branches, which is backed up by the
description in the 1.51 FW itself that says that some of  the previuos checks
have been droped. If you want to counter these facts, underline your
opinion with a commentary of the added code lines, that may backup your
opinion that the PFI & Videopart. are still checked for vailidity.

QUOTE(caster420 @ Mar 10 2009, 06:51 AM)

C4E didnt just hex the values to change the speed.  He wrote routines to support it.  Those have not been removed from the firmware that used to support it but were not written into Lite-On firmware and they never will be.  

The development documents clearly say that the
developer has to be aware of the fact that the DVD drive
is allowed to and will reduce the reading speed in 3 steps from
12x to 8x and finally to 5x by means of error correction. So
all applications have to (and actually do) run properly at all
3 speeds because all 3 are allowed speeds.  The Benq even
has a fourth step down to 2x which is not mentioned in the XDK.
The drive itself decides by means of it´s error correction algorithm
if and when it steps down the speed.
My conclusion of this is that there is *no risk* of becoming banned
just because of using one of these 3 reading speeds. They have
been built into the FW intenionally by M$. Each application Software
has to accept these 3 speeds as valid.

This post has been edited by mik30: Mar 10 2009, 09:58 AM

[frankenberrie]

I have a question I haven't seen posted and I think its rather good..

When I burn my backups I use IMGBURN and in the options under write I have:
Layer Break For DL media set to: 1913760

With wave 3 will this layer break need to be changed or does it stay the same?

Thanks,
Franky