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RepsolAL

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« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2008, 06:33:00 PM »

The whole idea of the spear is to ELIMINATE the need for any soldering on the drive
you may need to do a little to assemble the spear, but thats it
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« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2008, 06:36:00 PM »

its not that im that lazy I was just wondering if a solder was necessary. I mean cant the solder just carry the electricity back in fort to the wire.
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« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2008, 08:09:00 AM »

Will this method of building a spear work for both the CK3 and the Xtractor? and why are there resistors etc on the pictures of the probe, if you not need them here? are they only for the LED?
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« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2008, 09:11:00 AM »

QUOTE(p51susi @ Dec 15 2008, 04:45 PM) View Post

Will this method of building a spear work for both the CK3 and the Xtractor? and why are there resistors etc on the pictures of the probe, if you not need them here? are they only for the LED?



If you take a look at Xecuter probe it has 2 wires, that would probably be for the LEDs, you do not need any resistors at all to get a successful read.

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« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2008, 11:51:00 AM »

Hi, i have made a very basic spear in preperation for when my ck3 pro arrives.

can someone confirm for me that i have done this right? (obviously it still needs connecting to the ck3, will do that when it arrives)



(IMG:http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/mac456/Photo0054.jpg)



(IMG:http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/mac456/Photo0053.jpg)

thanks

This post has been edited by mac456: Dec 15 2008, 07:55 PM
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« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2008, 01:58:00 PM »

The safety pin just needs to be touching the actual wire inside, if it is, you're golden. A better method would be to strip about 1/2 of insulation off, and wrap the wire around the pin, then drop a dab of solder and/or some *very* tight electrical tape
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« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2008, 02:58:00 PM »

QUOTE(mac456 @ Dec 15 2008, 01:27 PM) *

Hi, i have made a very basic spear in preperation for when my ck3 pro arrives.

can someone confirm for me that i have done this right? (obviously it still needs connecting to the ck3, will do that when it arrives)
(IMG:http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/mac456/Photo0054.jpg)
(IMG:http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/mac456/Photo0053.jpg)

thanks


Where can I buy one?

$20?
$30?

NO!!! It's just $99!!
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« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2008, 08:55:00 PM »

why is everyone freaking out about these spears and stuff?

Just use a freaking flat head screwdriver (non magnetic) to bridge the two 707 points, which you would normally by soldering the two.  and extract with usual software.

If you don't have a freaking screw driver at home, then you need to be shot.  

Now does it get easier or cheaper then that?

stop wasting time making gay spears smile.gif
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« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2008, 09:04:00 PM »

QUOTE(ashegam @ Dec 15 2008, 09:31 PM) View Post

why is everyone freaking out about these spears and stuff?

Just use flat head screwdriver (non magnetic) to bridge the two 707 points, which you would normally by soldering the two.  and extract with usual software.
Now does it get easier or cheaper then that?


NOW, if your post looked like this modified version of your post I just made instead of the garbage you added to yours, maybe someone who likes to do stuff half-@ss would actually do it too?

(now let's see if he can reply without the kid attitude, I bet not.)
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« Reply #39 on: December 15, 2008, 09:09:00 PM »

QUOTE(SlayerQC @ Dec 15 2008, 10:40 PM) View Post

NOW, if your post looked like this modified version of your post I just made instead of the garbage you added to yours, maybe someone who likes to do stuff half-@ss would actually do it too?


If you call using a simple screwdriver half ass then WTH do you call a guy who puts a pin through a red wire.  Or someone who splices wire 11 to a needle and wraps it with scotch tape?

Only thing half ass here is your IQ.


see I can EDIT too:

Dude you're messing with the wrong guy.

Nice attempt at editing your post at 10:50PM and adding "(now let's see if he can reply without the kid attitude, I bet not.)" when I had already posted a reply at 10:45PM.

I think you just proved your IQ really is half ass smile.gif
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« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2008, 01:56:00 AM »

QUOTE(brandogg @ Dec 15 2008, 11:34 PM) View Post

The safety pin just needs to be touching the actual wire inside, if it is, you're golden. A better method would be to strip about 1/2 of insulation off, and wrap the wire around the pin, then drop a dab of solder and/or some *very* tight electrical tape


thanks for the reply, ill give that ago instead.

is there a easy way to test to see if i have made a connection? the needle went straight through the middle of the wire.


QUOTE(ashegam @ Dec 16 2008, 06:31 AM) View Post

why is everyone freaking out about these spears and stuff?

Just use a freaking flat head screwdriver (non magnetic) to bridge the two 707 points, which you would normally by soldering the two.  and extract with usual software.

If you don't have a freaking screw driver at home, then you need to be shot.  

Now does it get easier or cheaper then that?

stop wasting time making gay spears smile.gif


didnt relise you could do that  biggrin.gif if you slipped though, you could short something out?

cheers
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« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2008, 12:24:00 PM »

QUOTE(mac456 @ Dec 16 2008, 03:32 AM) View Post

didnt relise you could do that  biggrin.gif if you slipped though, you could short something out?


connecting those two points for 5 seconds is alot less riskier then fooling around with spears and soldering and stuff. so no there is no danger.  Just don't bit the crap out of your xbox with the screw driver and you'll be fine.
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« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2008, 01:11:00 PM »

QUOTE(ashegam @ Dec 16 2008, 09:00 PM) View Post

connecting those two points for 5 seconds is alot less riskier then fooling around with spears and soldering and stuff. so no there is no danger.  Just don't bit the crap out of your xbox with the screw driver and you'll be fine.



Sorry to say, but putting a pin in a via hole is a lot damn safer than messing around with a screwdriver...


- open up dos window, type dvdkey32
- make sure power is off to ck3
- insert pin into the via hole (nice and simple...
- turn on ck3
- press enter

how simpler and safer do you want?
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« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2008, 02:21:00 PM »

QUOTE(kipper2k @ Dec 16 2008, 02:47 PM) *

Sorry to say, but putting a pin in a via hole is a lot damn safer than messing around with a screwdriver...
- open up dos window, type dvdkey32
- make sure power is off to ck3
- insert pin into the via hole (nice and simple...
- turn on ck3
- press enter

how simpler and safer do you want?


no need to be sorry, you're entitled to your opinion and what's easy for me might not be easy for someone else and vice versa.  For me spending $15.00 on a spear, or making a ghetto spear and splicing wires together, or buying a soldering tool and soldering my xbox is not easier then holding a screw driver for 3 seconds.

I don't know about you, but if you gave a beggar on the street a screw driver and said "here hold this on these two points for 2 seconds" or " hey go make a spear and insert it in this whole" I think we both know which one would have a higher rate of success (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2008, 02:37:00 PM »

QUOTE(ashegam @ Dec 16 2008, 10:57 PM) View Post

no need to be sorry, you're entitled to your opinion and what's easy for me might not be easy for someone else and vice versa.  For me spending $15.00 on a spear, or making a ghetto spear and splicing wires together, or buying a soldering tool and soldering my xbox is not easier then holding a screw driver for 3 seconds.

I don't know about you, but if you gave a beggar on the street a screw driver and said "here hold this on these two points for 2 seconds" or " hey go make a spear and insert it in this whole" I think we both know which one would have a higher rate of success smile.gif



If the Begger has the "DT's" then it could be an issue, its not just for 2 seconds, it normally takes about 17 seconds to get a read so if you have a steady hand then fine. but for the average person i reckon holding a pin in a hole and getting a good connection is better than having a possible intermittent connection with a screwdriver.

To each their own
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