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« Reply #105 on: December 07, 2008, 07:11:00 PM »

thanks yaywoop (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I hope I understand you right. (my english isn't the best)

(IMG:http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6664/io888856z9v2py3.th.png)

now is pin 5 connected with PC-GND (case), emitter and DVD-GND (case)
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« Reply #106 on: December 08, 2008, 02:31:00 AM »

QUOTE(Hype @ Dec 8 2008, 03:47 AM) View Post

thanks yaywoop smile.gif
I hope I understand you right. (my english isn't the best)

IPB Image

now is pin 5 connected with PC-GND (case), emitter and DVD-GND (case)


If it's really that simple i'm gonna make myself one now tongue.gif
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« Reply #107 on: December 08, 2008, 03:30:00 AM »

QUOTE(Senaxx @ Dec 8 2008, 09:07 PM) View Post

If it's really that simple i'm gonna make myself one now tongue.gif

yeah it really is that simple
heh maybe i should change the image in my first post with that one smile.gif
it is a much clearer schematic.
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« Reply #108 on: December 08, 2008, 04:45:00 AM »

QUOTE(yaywoop @ Dec 8 2008, 12:06 PM) *

yeah it really is that simple
heh maybe i should change the image in my first post with that one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
it is a much clearer schematic.



For us schematic noobs it is yeah (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But how about incorporating the drive tray switch, just put in on pin 9 (if i remember right?)

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« Reply #109 on: December 08, 2008, 05:28:00 AM »

Anyone knows if the Xbox DVD drive really needs the 3.3V of the SATA power to operate - or at least to dump the key?
I mean the 3.3V of sata standard is barely used and a lot of motherboards are bundled with molex to sata adapters which only supply 5V and 12V.
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« Reply #110 on: December 08, 2008, 07:39:00 AM »

ok guys just one question. If i use the following schematic which was posted earlier in this thread:
(IMG:http://www.devilsps3.centelia.net/liteon/index_files/image004.jpg)

SO all I need to do is connected the Tx from the drive (transmission from DVD drive) to the Rx of the schematic above (Receiving with the schematic). Am I right until now?

So as we are only receiving information from the LiteOn drive and we are not transmitting something through the serial port I do not need to connect the Tx from the schematic above to anything. Right???

Now all I am left with is the 3.3V and GND of the schematic. So is it true that i could just connect those to pin 6 (for 3.3v) and pin 5, 7, 9 or 11 (for GND) to the DVD's power connector??? I mean the following connector.

(IMG:http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f320/RDCXBG/360DVDPowerConnectorToMolex.jpg)

I am new to all of this and so kind of trying to understand my question is just did I understand it correctly now?
The only question left for me now (if I understand this correctly) where can I find a DVD power plug as illustrated above. so lets say a converter which would convert the power from my computer's PSU to such a plug so I can powerup the DVD player without the need of my xbox.

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« Reply #111 on: December 08, 2008, 08:29:00 AM »

QUOTE(dangerpaki @ Dec 9 2008, 02:15 AM) View Post

ok guys just one question. If i use the following schematic which was posted earlier in this thread:
http://www.devilsps3...es/image004.jpg

SO all I need to do is connected the Tx from the drive (transmission from DVD drive) to the Rx of the schematic above (Receiving with the schematic). Am I right until now?

So as we are only receiving information from the LiteOn drive and we are not transmitting something through the serial port I do not need to connect the Tx from the schematic above to anything. Right???

Now all I am left with is the 3.3V and GND of the schematic. So is it true that i could just connect those to pin 6 (for 3.3v) and pin 5, 7, 9 or 11 (for GND) to the DVD's power connector??? I mean the following connector.

http://i50.photobuck...ctorToMolex.jpg

I am new to all of this and so kind of trying to understand my question is just did I understand it correctly now?
The only question left for me now (if I understand this correctly) where can I find a DVD power plug as illustrated above. so lets say a converter which would convert the power from my computer's PSU to such a plug so I can powerup the DVD player without the need of my xbox.

this is really the wrong topic to be asking about max3232 circuits. this topic is about an ultra simple method requiring no integrated circuits, don't know if you noticed when you read the first post...

as for the dvd power, I found a plug that was the right size in an old laser printer, just had  to be cut down with a hobby knife to fit the power socket on the drive. I then soldered the correct wires to wires from my pc power supply.
it is a lot easier just to use the xbox to power the drive though
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« Reply #112 on: December 08, 2008, 11:35:00 AM »

QUOTE(yaywoop @ Dec 8 2008, 05:05 PM) *

this is really the wrong topic to be asking about max3232 circuits. this topic is about an ultra simple method requiring no integrated circuits, don't know if you noticed when you read the first post...

as for the dvd power, I found a plug that was the right size in an old laser printer, just had  to be cut down with a hobby knife to fit the power socket on the drive. I then soldered the correct wires to wires from my pc power supply.
it is a lot easier just to use the xbox to power the drive though

thanx. lol you're probably right on my questions being too detailed.

anywyas was there any kind of name or type number on the plug? I rather have the plug so i can make a powerplug myself. not using the xbox to powerup, and maybe mess up my original plug in modding it that's why. i know that plug looks so familiar but i don;t know where i saw it. wait i think i just remember that i saw it on one of my old powersupplies (which i of course threw away because it was broken)

anywhere i can buy this plug?

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« Reply #113 on: December 08, 2008, 11:06:00 AM »

nm. Please delete it

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« Reply #114 on: December 08, 2008, 11:15:00 AM »

Hi,

Can you help me building your LiteOn Reader? Do I need a special xbox power cable?

Want to build it like that: http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/593/jdfnnsdfigerpr4.png

How can I put the 5V from the SPU to the Reader?
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« Reply #115 on: December 08, 2008, 02:59:00 PM »

Hi,
as my mainboard doesn't have a COM Port :
Is it possible to use your reader with  such a COM to USB adapter ?



sry for my bad english wink.gif
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« Reply #116 on: December 08, 2008, 03:37:00 PM »

QUOTE(fugmenot @ Dec 8 2008, 04:35 PM) View Post

Hi,
as my mainboard doesn't have a COM Port :
Is it possible to use your reader with  such a COM to USB adapter ?
sry for my bad english wink.gif


Most Com to USB adapters are actually just a com port on a usb cable, meaning it adds a com port to your computer.

You actually probably do have a com port on your computer, you just have to find it. Open up the manual for your motherboard, there should be a overview of all the headers on the board. I just got some square pins and plugged into mine.
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« Reply #117 on: December 08, 2008, 05:05:00 PM »

QUOTE(yaywoop @ Nov 29 2008, 07:39 PM) View Post

All that is required for dumping a liteon key is a transistor and two resistors. which can both be found in old hardware. Computer monitors, VCR's, TV's and radio's are treasure troves of resistors capacitors and signal transistors.
So if you are handy with a soldering iron, why buy an xecuter kit or max232 board that you are only going to use once or twice?
for me at lest it was easier to make one than order online and wait.

The circuit is pretty simple, its a common emitter amplifier which inverts the signal and amplifies it to 5V.
its not strictly rs232 levels, but most serial ports probably won't mind. mine doesn't


Only the transmitting part is needed, the computer only receives the key over rs232, it doesn't transmit anything

So start off by finding an NPN transistor. practically any signal NPN will do.
hopefully the base collector and emitter will be marked on the pcb where you find the transistor (with B C E or something).
To desolder it heat two pins at a time with your soldering iron and wiggle it free, have  some fresh solder on the iron to help melt the solder. try not to heat the transistor for too long, they are easily damaged by heat.
To test if the transistor is an npn, get a ohm meter (or battery resistor and led) put the positive lead on the base, if its an NPN you should get a reading when you put the negative lead on the collector and emitter.
if you don't know which pin is the base. just try each pin until the other two pins have a reading.

The 10K resistor will be marked brown black orange (gold)
The 1k resistor will be marked brown black red (gold)
You can always test with a multimeter after you desolder it if you are unsure.

Some desoldered components:


Now put it together! I just did it freeform (without a PCB)
a serial plug could be salvaged from an old modem. or cut up a serial cable
You should have 3 wires (gnd, 5V and Tx) going to the dvd drive and two wires (gnd pin 5 and Rx pin 2) going to the serial port
it should look something like this (sorry about the blurry pic)


Now you also need power to the drive. I made an adapter which plugs into a spare sata power plug, and has a switch to open/close the drive. but you can also just use the Xbox 360 to power it. you might need to disconnect pin 9 (eject) to get the tray to stay partially open (Pinout link the ? pin on that page is 3.3V)

overall my setup looks like this:

I got the dvd power plug from a printer (cut down to fit) and made the SATA power adapter from a piece of PCB filed down to fit and with tracks cut for 12v, 5v, gnd and 3.3v. careful if you don't do it right it could damage your computer power supply or dvd drive.

To get it working I used the dos version of dvdkey, but anything else would probably work.
1 eject the drive and push the tray in half way. leave pin 9 open so the tray doesn't close
2 plug in power and sata
3 turn pc on and boot into dos
4 run dosflash to get the sata address of the dvd drive (say no to any prompts and ctrl+c when you have the address)
5 plug in the serial to the drive and pc. then run: dvdkey address

Hopefully that will work. If it doesn't, check your connections, reboot and try again. you can also try unplugging sata  until dos has booted.
You can try probing your circuit with a multimeter, disconnect from pc and dvd power the circuit with 5v, the output should be 5V when the input Tx is pulled low, and 0V when the input Tx is 3V.

Now all you have to do is get another drive and spoof it to replace the liteon.

Of course you can also buy all the parts mentioned, but that would ruin the fun of being able to hack the latest and greatest versions of the 360 absolutely free.
Enjoy.


So where does the rs232 serial output go?

I can build the circuit you specified fine, but I don't know where to plug the female serial port... just directly into the serial port of a computer? What if you don't have these ports anymore?


thanks

Edit: And what will be the point of this when ix1.5 comes out? I read that MS can detect spoofed drives?
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« Reply #118 on: December 08, 2008, 05:53:00 PM »

QUOTE(dangerpaki @ Dec 9 2008, 05:35 AM) View Post

thanx. lol you're probably right on my questions being too detailed.

anywyas was there any kind of name or type number on the plug? I rather have the plug so i can make a powerplug myself. not using the xbox to powerup, and maybe mess up my original plug in modding it that's why. i know that plug looks so familiar but i don;t know where i saw it. wait i think i just remember that i saw it on one of my old powersupplies (which i of course threw away because it was broken)

anywhere i can buy this plug?

no and I don't know. you really would be better off using the xbox. i don't see why you are worried about messing the original plug up. you don't need to do anything to the connector

QUOTE(Juli1000 @ Dec 9 2008, 05:51 AM) View Post

Hi,

Can you help me building your LiteOn Reader? Do I need a special xbox power cable?

Want to build it like that: http://img216.images...nsdfigerpr4.png

How can I put the 5V from the SPU to the Reader?

read the first post. that's why i wrote it.
you can use the xbox 360 to power your drive while you dump the key. and to get 5v from the pc power supply you plug a wire into one of the internal power plugs which are usually used for cd drives and hdd's. the red wire is 5V

QUOTE(fugmenot @ Dec 9 2008, 09:35 AM) View Post

Hi,
as my mainboard doesn't have a COM Port :
Is it possible to use your reader with  such a COM to USB adapter ?
sry for my bad english wink.gif

yes a usb com port adapter should work. you will need to use  it in windows though as dos doesn't support usb. use the maximus dvd extractor software.

QUOTE(darkcurrent @ Dec 9 2008, 11:41 AM) View Post

So where does the rs232 serial output go?

I can build the circuit you specified fine, but I don't know where to plug the female serial port... just directly into the serial port of a computer? What if you don't have these ports anymore?
thanks

Edit: And what will be the point of this when ix1.5 comes out? I read that MS can detect spoofed drives?

it should be a male plug, and it plugs into the 9 pin female serial socket on the back of your PC. if you don't have the port, either look in your motherboard manual as suggested above, or buy a PCI serial card or a usb to serial adapter. dealextreme has some pretty cheap adapters

as for 1.5 it is still a rumor, so it is hard to tell. it may still require the key do be dumped so it can be injected into the firmware. because it is supposed to be impossible to dump over sata. but i don't know for sure
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« Reply #119 on: December 08, 2008, 11:04:00 PM »

QUOTE(yaywoop @ Dec 9 2008, 02:29 AM) View Post

no and I don't know. you really would be better off using the xbox. i don't see why you are worried about messing the original plug up. you don't need to do anything to the connector
read the first post. that's why i wrote it.
you can use the xbox 360 to power your drive while you dump the key. and to get 5v from the pc power supply you plug a wire into one of the internal power plugs which are usually used for cd drives and hdd's. the red wire is 5V
yes a usb com port adapter should work. you will need to use  it in windows though as dos doesn't support usb. use the maximus dvd extractor software.
it should be a male plug, and it plugs into the 9 pin female serial socket on the back of your PC. if you don't have the port, either look in your motherboard manual as suggested above, or buy a PCI serial card or a usb to serial adapter. dealextreme has some pretty cheap adapters

as for 1.5 it is still a rumor, so it is hard to tell. it may still require the key do be dumped so it can be injected into the firmware. because it is supposed to be impossible to dump over sata. but i don't know for sure


okay, thanks.

one last question. What program do you use to read the output (key) from the serial?

Edit: What's the advantages of using the maximus, xtractor and ck3(sp?)? From my point of view, I could probably build this in less than 10 min for free (have the components) and faster than they could ship it to me... so there has to be a reason people are actually paying for those kits... and the are?

Thanks
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