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[lilpaul]

I have just bought a new 360 after my old one died and it has a lite-on drive.

After looking through the forum and guides it seems you are required to solder 2 points on the back of the drive board.

I was just wondering why as far as i can tell when using the spear addon with the maximus xtractor it only seems to bridge one of the points rather that the 2 needed for ck3 addon.

Do both points need to be soldered or can you get away with just doing 1.  

There is not a cats hell chance of me soldering both points, was thinking of just bridging one of the points with a pin or a wire.  Would that work?  Can you not bridge the points using a pencil.  Ive done that before on motherboards.

Any help would be appreciated

[XmodsUK]

QUOTE(lilpaul @ Nov 24 2008, 06:47 PM)

I have just bought a new 360 after my old one died and it has a lite-on drive.

After looking through the forum and guides it seems you are required to solder 2 points on the back of the drive board.

I was just wondering why as far as i can tell when using the spear addon with the maximus xtractor it only seems to bridge one of the points rather that the 2 needed for ck3 addon.

Do both points need to be soldered or can you get away with just doing 1.  

There is not a cats hell chance of me soldering both points, was thinking of just bridging one of the points with a pin or a wire.  Would that work?  Can you not bridge the points using a pencil.  Ive done that before on motherboards.

Any help would be appreciated

Yes, you can get away with just one. Not sure why the tutorals haven't been updated with this.

[crowdogx]

hi mate only the r707 is needed for reading
the other one is for writing
so the speer is good for this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[lilpaul]

Thanks for the prompt reply.

Do you think it would be possible to bridge this point using just a graphite pencil.

The other way i was gonna try is using a pin bent into the hole and touch the solder point.

I can't solder for 5hit and would likely damage the board.

I'm surprised no one has created a small clip to bridge this point.  The only thing available at present is  the spear addon - which for what it does is a rip off.

[allenofmn]

You can do it without soldering.

If you splice into the dvd cable using this manual as reference
http://dwl.xbox-scene.com/tutorial/Xbox_360-HandC-V1_4.pdf

On a ttl/rs-232 adapter
Like this one http://alldav.com/index.php?main_page=prod...402d2b90b3555ac

pin 6 to the v-in on the adapter
7, 9, 11 or 5 for ground

The spear is little more than a suped up paperclip with a wire attached to it.
Poke a paperclip in the hole and hook that to the tx on the adapter

It's kind of a hacked up way of doing it, but it should work.

This post has been edited by allenofmn: Nov 24 2008, 09:10 PM

[lilpaul]

Thanks for your help

Ive already got a CK3 pro adapter.

Will just use a paperclip to bridge the point.

[O_oTheGameo_O]

soldering aint that hard..

I never did it in my life still I managed to solder few of those lite-on drives.

[allenofmn]

QUOTE(O_oTheGameo_O @ Nov 24 2008, 04:20 PM)

soldering aint that hard..

I never did it in my life still I managed to solder few of those lite-on drives.

I never said soldering was that hard. I find it reasonably easy, but then again... I interned for a small electronics engineering company.

I would say it's more, you have to have the iron, the solder and a steady hand.

[Kurt Hectic]

I'm still before my "first time" with Lite-On drive   (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)  and I'd like to ask you guys some questions:

What if I don't have any connectivity kit? Can I still avoid soldering like you discussed here? Can I do it connecting only  r707 and leaving the other?
I'll be doing it by this guide:
http://beta.ivancover.com/wiki/index.php/X...D2S_Extract_Key

Also I've seen this topic http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=666496
and it all makes me wonder - are those no-solder options only available for connectivity users? Or just by a coincidence, no one updated any tutorial that includes a method for "no-CK" people ?
I'll be using a PCI card with VIA VT6421A which helped me flash  Benq and Sammy before.




P.S.  I've bought a max3232 thingy but I've received one build not on Maxim 3232 but on Sipex SP3232ECP - I've made some research and it seems like a "max3232" imitation and schematics match. Just to be sure I decided to ask: Will it work? I mean - it's just a TTL converter, right? as long as I connect Rx, Tx etc. properly - I should be able to read the data Lite-On holds ?

This post has been edited by Kurt Hectic: Nov 25 2008, 12:04 AM

[Albut35]

I just use a very small flat head screw driver to press down on the points and bridge them. It's very simple and it much better than wasting money on that Spear add-on rip off thing.

[Jack21]

If I was able to get the inquiry.bin and the identify.bin files, but got an invalid key that comes out as a bunch of Cs, does that mean there's a problem with how I bridged R707?

I'm trying the screwdriver trick to bridge the two points since I don't have any of the things required to solder it.  Am I not putting enough pressure on the screwdriver to connect the two points?

Could there be a problem with the SATA or COM ports?  Or is this problem solely related to bridging the two points?

[lilpaul]

Albut35 - - the simple solutions are the best.

Don't know why i didn't just think of that.

Will give it a whirl at the weekend.

Thanks for your help

[dannyboy_676]

So if you use the screwdriver trick, you dont need to solder a wire (dont know which one) to the screwdriver??
Just bridging (assume thats connecting) the 2 solderpoints at r707 via a screwdriver??

This post has been edited by dannyboy_676: Dec 19 2008, 03:52 PM

[caster420]

QUOTE(dannyboy_676 @ Dec 19 2008, 11:27 AM)

So if you use the screwdriver trick, you dont need to solder a wire (dont know which one) to the screwdriver??
Just bridging (assume thats connecting) the 2 solderpoints at r707 via a screwdriver??

Yes, thats all you need to do.

Caster.

[OggyUK]

Ive tried most of the ways available when dumping my liteons, and screwdriver irsnt the easiest.

Pin in the hole joined by wire or something to Tx seems a lot easier.