Topic: New Lite-on Drive Found Worldwide (Read 3743 times)

Team Modfreakz · « **Reply #45 on:** April 22, 2008, 01:24:00 AM »

My theory!

the controller chip looks like on Samsung SH-D162D drives (MT1308E IDE) or Asus DVD-E616A3 (MT1309E SATA) drives, the SPI ROM is now inside the MT1319L.
I think this is the major difference, so where is no problem at all!! the drives are still flashable.

btw. The same move you will see at Hitachi/LG GDR-H20N (MN103SD6FDA SATA) PC drives. the 256kb flash is now embedded.
who knows, maybe we will see soon new HL v90 drives

Samsung SH-D162D

Asus DVD-E616A3

Hitachi/LG GDR-H20N

cory1492 · « **Reply #46 on:** April 22, 2008, 06:26:00 AM »

QUOTE(jimbobjim @ Apr 22 2008, 02:45 AM)

I've noticed a few people call it the "new Benq"... it's actually made by Philips & Lite-on digital solutions corporation, so "Lite-on" would be a more appropriate title (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/Lite-On-to-ta...D-business.html
You do know that comparing BenQ and Lite-on is like comparing apples to apples (for at least a year now, before any BenQ drives popped up in 360 afaik)... right?

jimbobjim · « **Reply #47 on:** April 22, 2008, 06:12:00 AM »

QUOTE(cory1492 @ Apr 22 2008, 01:26 PM)

http://www.cdfreaks....D-business.html
You do know that comparing BenQ and Lite-on is like comparing apples to apples (for at least a year now, before any BenQ drives popped up in 360 afaik)... right?

Yes but it doesn't say Benq anywhere on the drive whereas the old ones do.

I know they are all pretty much the same but I thought it would save confusion by naming this drive a lite-on.

Old Drive
http://pictures.xbox.../Picture013.jpg

New drive
http://i286.photobuc...21042008079.jpg

Basically you could call it either. I'll be calling it a lite-on so I don't get confused.

warbeast · « **Reply #48 on:** April 22, 2008, 06:56:00 AM »

when it comes to repairs and crap couldnt ms have the motherboard update its key to any drive
then the new drives wont need to be flashed with new keys and could infact have the chip read only

steve1680 · « **Reply #49 on:** April 22, 2008, 08:19:00 AM »

Un-flashable? I doubt it, thats the worst thing you could ever tell a hacker is that it cant be done.

C4eva, Textbook, and Schtrom are probably happy that this drive came out, they were probably getting bored without a new 360 to crack.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Dark Seraph · « **Reply #50 on:** April 22, 2008, 08:33:00 AM »

not to sound retarded...but i thought rom chips couldnt be flashed but once...period.

if that is true then this drive is unhackable and probably can only be read once the epoxy is removed and you attach something to read the drive firmware...i dont think it can be read with just firmware....but to be honest this is my worst nightmare and i hope that this isnt what is happening.

This post has been edited by Dark Seraph: Apr 22 2008, 03:43 PM

warbeast · « **Reply #51 on:** April 22, 2008, 08:46:00 AM »

hopefully if it cant be flashed it can be patched using a modchip bit like the d2c wii chips?

Dark Seraph · « **Reply #52 on:** April 22, 2008, 08:52:00 AM »

wii drives and 360 drives act different completelly...wii drives dont have firmware on them the wii sends instructions to the drive and then the drive does it...the only part the drive has that is firmware i think just tells the actual wii its a valid drive...anyways

that drive could get a modchip i geuss..thats if iwe can read the firmware.

Iriez · « **Reply #53 on:** April 22, 2008, 09:18:00 AM »

QUOTE(Team Modfreakz @ Apr 22 2008, 03:00 AM)

My theory! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

the controller chip looks like on Samsung SH-D162D drives (MT1308E IDE) or Asus DVD-E616A3 (MT1309E SATA) drives, the SPI ROM is now inside the MT1319L.
I think this is the major difference, so where is no problem at all!! the drives are still flashable.
btw. The same move you will see at Hitachi/LG GDR-H20N (MN103SD6FDA SATA) PC drives. the 256kb flash is now embedded.
who knows, maybe we will see soon new HL v90 drives (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Ahhh, thanks for giving me some hope TMF! =)

I was thinking the only way we were going to combat a read-only situation was to timing attack/KK/linux/dump dvd-key and inject into a 'modchip' that controls the drive. Not fun!

QUOTE(jimbobjim @ Apr 22 2008, 07:48 AM)

Yes but it doesn't say Benq anywhere on the drive whereas the old ones do.

I know they are all pretty much the same but I thought it would save confusion by naming this drive a lite-on.

Old Drive
http://pictures.xbox-scene.com/xbox360/benq/Picture013.jpg

New drive
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll88/sl...21042008079.jpg
Basically you could call it either. I'll be calling it a lite-on so I don't get confused.

I agree that it is best to start calling this drive lite-on. Hence why I posted news with 'lite-on' and not 'benq'. They may be the same manufacturer now, but its still a new drive that specifies 'lite-on' and not 'benq'.

warbeast · « **Reply #54 on:** April 22, 2008, 09:54:00 AM »

QUOTE(Dark Seraph @ Apr 22 2008, 03:52 PM)

wii drives and 360 drives act different completelly...wii drives dont have firmware on them the wii sends instructions to the drive and then the drive does it...the only part the drive has that is firmware i think just tells the actual wii its a valid drive...anyways
that drive could get a modchip i geuss..thats if iwe can read the firmware.

i know mate but i ment if we cant flash the hole firmware maybe we can atleast patch the code in that we need using a modchip a bit like the wii wasnt trieing to say the same as the wii but just the same idea....

Akmzero · « **Reply #55 on:** April 22, 2008, 11:02:00 AM »

What if it is a ROM chip. Anyone bother to check the mobo? Maybe were looking in the wrong spot.

Redline99 · « **Reply #56 on:** April 22, 2008, 11:08:00 AM »

If someone comes across an extra one of these, please pm me.
Thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Martinchris23 · « **Reply #57 on:** April 22, 2008, 10:33:00 AM »

QUOTE(Akmzero @ Apr 22 2008, 06:02 PM)

What if it is a ROM chip. Anyone bother to check the mobo? Maybe were looking in the wrong spot.

There are photos showing both sides of the board. Two hints as to why the firmware is in the M1319L package:

1. Apart from the Drive IC, there isn't anything else to house the data.
2. Obvious one here - it's surrounded in epoxy! Why else would you do this if the data wasn't inside? It's a little like having armed guards outside of a vault- they're there for a reason!!

Team Modfreakz · « **Reply #58 on:** April 22, 2008, 11:15:00 AM »

I'm also interested to buy this DG-16D2S drive!

podger · « **Reply #59 on:** April 22, 2008, 11:23:00 AM »

@Team Modfreakz
you might have to buy the whole console to get it.....

They put exopy on the benq, and it was no where near the SPI....

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