Topic: New Lite-on Drive Found Worldwide (Read 3835 times)

moocrow · « **Reply #105 on:** April 24, 2008, 03:00:00 PM »

Have just opened an Arcade box bought yesterday in the UK with a Benq VAD:

Mfr date 2008-04-02, Lot 0814, drive manufacture date *MARCH 08*.

By the skin of my teeth I suspect...

TeHsU · « **Reply #106 on:** April 25, 2008, 04:21:00 AM »

QUOTE(littlestevie360 @ Apr 23 2008, 03:39 PM)

Do you really think Microsoft are that ignorant that they dont download a copy everytime a new one is released and explore it for holes to ban on, then wait for a big title release for the ban waves. or do you think they just randomly ban people hoping they get someone with a modded firmware and say "sorry" to everyone else? im more inclined to agree with they download and disect. i personally know people who have been banned from xbox live running iXtreme 1.4, 100% stealth disks (supposedly) 100% stealth firmware (supposedly), and backed up from there original copy, done on an xbox360 Toshiba Samsung.

oh and as a side note our current drives havent changed how they work (you say they dont know whats going on with the firmware hacks) of course they know they designed the firmware and C4E modified it.... then gave it to EVERYONE.

Littlestevie360

I know many people with 1.41 All BenQs on Live since 1.41 was released never used a old version and have not been banned. All correctly stealthed. One uses bad copies of games and is still not banned. So I doubt these people you know have been running 1.4 from the beginning of the Life of the Modded 360.

We've been over this, 1.4x iX is the only secure firmware any before that have issues. Good day

p1mpma57ah · « **Reply #107 on:** April 25, 2008, 07:59:00 AM »

as the other newly opened thread seems to be full of *ish I post this request again here:

Can anyone preferably from europe who has a box with the new drive get in touch with me please? I will buy it or exchange for a brand new xbox360 with flashable benq.

thanks...

XboxMySocks · « **Reply #108 on:** April 25, 2008, 06:24:00 PM »

Can someone with the new drive assemble it, eject it and take a picture of the inside (from the disc tray level?) because I think mine might have it and I bought it from the store (core pack)

ImmortalZ · « **Reply #109 on:** April 25, 2008, 08:30:00 PM »

The consensus seems to be that this drive is identical in mechanics to the Benq drive.

delcake · « **Reply #110 on:** April 25, 2008, 08:36:00 PM »

Look at it this way, the xbox firmware scene is extremely wide open. Just a search engine query away. Not to mention obtaining the firmware is extremely easy as well. One has to be a complete idiot to not be able to find it. It is perfectly logical that MS has been tracking every single release, analyze each hacked firmware, and develop counter measures.

And if you think they can't analyze it then you are the one with their head in the sand.

This post has been edited by delcake: Apr 26 2008, 03:37 AM

XboxMySocks · « **Reply #111 on:** April 25, 2008, 09:29:00 PM »

QUOTE(ImmortalZ @ Apr 25 2008, 10:30 PM)

The consensus seems to be that this drive is identical in mechanics to the Benq drive.

Well, apparently not, as my BenQ has a white/blue (left to right respectively) at the very bottom of the drive, while the pic of the one i saw had either a black plastic-ish thing or a silver metal plate.

ProphetOfPain · « **Reply #112 on:** April 26, 2008, 01:18:00 AM »

QUOTE(delcake @ Apr 26 2008, 03:36 AM)

And if you think they can't analyze it then you are the one with their head in the sand.

You know, sometimes you can analyze till your blue in the face. Just because it is Microsoft, doesn't mean they are above and beyond the bounds of electricity and coding. It is what it is. OBVIOUSLY, if M$ would of been able to simply detect modified firmware and then BAN, THEY WOULD.

Zod5000 · « **Reply #113 on:** April 26, 2008, 05:27:00 PM »

QUOTE(ProphetOfPain @ Apr 26 2008, 08:18 AM)

You know, sometimes you can analyze till your blue in the face. Just because it is Microsoft, doesn't mean they are above and beyond the bounds of electricity and coding. It is what it is. OBVIOUSLY, if M$ would of been able to simply detect modified firmware and then BAN, THEY WOULD.

Exactly, its not that microsoft can't download and analyze the firmware off the net, its that read/flash the drives (at least the ms28 and the benq), you have to make it go into recovery mode, not something thats an ordinary function of the drive while its being run by the 360.

So basically microsoft tries to detect end results. Anything that happens while the disc is running that wouldn't be an oridinary response from stock firmware with an original disc. Missing/Bad Stealth sectors etc...

One has to wonder how many more tricks they have left up their sleeve with this approach, the last technique they used was the jitter check, but it ended up banning alot of legitimate consoles, because bad dvd drives or scratched discs could create similar results to a modified console.

I'm no technological genious, but as long as the drives require them to be in recovery mode to dump the firmware, it would extremely difficult for microsoft to read the firmware on your console's dvd drive. Therefore they'll have to keep trying to detect the subtle differences in drive/disc responses on drives with modified and non-modified firmware.

manu_xl · « **Reply #114 on:** April 26, 2008, 05:33:00 PM »

*nevermind*

Esra · « **Reply #115 on:** April 28, 2008, 06:40:00 PM »

Anyone have any news on this drive yet?

I have gotten my 360 back from repairs with this drive and now I can't get it flashed!

Looks like I'll have to buy an arcade unit and flash that one.

Has anyone seen any development in cracking this thing open?

Toddler · « **Reply #116 on:** April 28, 2008, 07:33:00 PM »

Esra, are you also in Australia?

StrictPuppet · « **Reply #117 on:** April 28, 2008, 09:27:00 PM »

QUOTE(Toddler @ Apr 28 2008, 06:33 PM)

Esra, are you also in Australia?

According to his IP address, yes he is.

Esra · « **Reply #118 on:** April 28, 2008, 11:23:00 PM »

QUOTE(StrictPuppet @ Apr 29 2008, 01:27 PM)

According to his IP address, yes he is.

Sure am.

Got it back last week and it has the new drive. Not entirely sure it's legal for MS to swap parts in your property without forewarning you. Kinda like putting your car in for a service and getting it back a different colour.

Unless they can prove it was the cause of the fault (everyone knows it's not) then they shouldn't be touching it!

Any ideas? I'm probably going to keep this as my 'Legit' box for Live etc.

I've bought a cheap RROD unit that I'll fix and flash for playing my 'backups'.

Alexus I · « **Reply #119 on:** April 29, 2008, 02:56:00 AM »

QUOTE(Toddler @ Apr 29 2008, 05:33 AM)

Esra, are you also in Australia?

I have a version why that new drives will
find in Australia: becouse many people from Russia are registered gamertag on address in Australia (on Russia registration denied), and about 95% are modded! I know this situation, becouse live in Russia.
I think MS analized banned consoles and gamertags on thats consoles.

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