Topic: Xbox Live ban updates (Read 1132 times)

ilovecrack · « **Reply #30 on:** December 21, 2007, 11:16:00 PM »

It makes you buy new xbox's, why else would they ban u for it.

ShaX5 · « **Reply #31 on:** December 21, 2007, 11:28:00 PM »

What about the "Nyko Intercooler EX"? Is this something that MS would send a ban out for?

-ShaX

HotKnife420 · « **Reply #32 on:** December 21, 2007, 11:00:00 PM »

QUOTE(superost @ Dec 22 2007, 06:47 AM)

Who cares about their "TOS" or "EULA"+- banning users from Live for this reason is lame

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You lose you're warranty by opening it anyway, so MS isn't (or shouldn't be) repairing any damage you might make by doing the mod or adding some other stuff anyway. And I'm talking about the 12V mod, not an intercooler ...
Also you're not even messing with their precious Live System - this is a simple hardware mod with no affect to the software part.. or am I missing something here..

In all fairness, using any of the current firmware hacks don't allow any cheating/hacking on live that isn't able to be performed with an original disc, but it's grounds for banning. Any modification means *any*. I wholeheartedly agree that it's wrong, and partially feel firmware bans are wrong, but not much I can do about that

ilovecrack · « **Reply #33 on:** December 21, 2007, 11:37:00 PM »

They check the voltage of the fan, doesnt that run off USB? You'll be safe with that 4 sure

brandogg · « **Reply #34 on:** December 22, 2007, 12:25:00 AM »

I'm gonna be f*cking pissed if I find out that my added fan is what got me banned. I had to bring my console back from the dead, and try to prevent it from dying again, after Microsoft screwed a ton of people (myself included) with their inconsistent warranty upgrades. Looks like I'll be calling tomorrow.

qweewqaz · « **Reply #35 on:** December 22, 2007, 12:47:00 AM »

I hope no one gets banned for the 12v mod including me...

Bubbalynch · « **Reply #36 on:** December 22, 2007, 12:59:00 AM »

QUOTE(Xbox-Scene @ Dec 22 2007, 04:02 AM)

you will eventually get banned.

Well, I guess that about wraps it up.

Fuck it, ban me... "eventually". (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

superost · « **Reply #37 on:** December 22, 2007, 12:47:00 AM »

QUOTE(HotKnife420 @ Dec 22 2007, 07:36 AM)

In all fairness, using any of the current firmware hacks don't allow any cheating/hacking on live that isn't able to be performed with an original disc, but it's grounds for banning. Any modification means *any*. I wholeheartedly agree that it's wrong, and partially feel firmware bans are wrong, but not much I can do about that

IMO there is a major difference between using a firmware hack and modding your fan speed/voltage.. Custom firmwares are a baaad business for MS, since people often use pirated games, even if custom firmwares are "meant" to be used for backups.. and we know that game sales are pretty important in this business.. I think that is pretty clear and that's why I actually understand MS, when they ban people from live who use custom firmwares. (Of course it's NOT fair, when people get banned even though their drive is clean from any modifications)
BUT how can a fan mod hurt MS in any way?..

wrong strategy MS.. once again

shlipshlip · « **Reply #38 on:** December 22, 2007, 01:29:00 AM »

well apparently banning for fw is harder and more controversial than they expected. so, they can ban for fans which they can absolutely and easily tell. stupid, but that's how i see their logic.

but i asked before and no one answered yet, would the blaster 360 be effected by this? does it run anymore power from the system?

and was any kind of new technique used int he latest wave of bans? Or does c4eva/the whole firmware modding crew still think it's the same dmi, pfi, and kreon ss?

spivey8 · « **Reply #39 on:** December 22, 2007, 01:01:00 AM »

Well, the unbanning is true..... hooked my banned MS 25 with X 5.3 and its back up and running on live... so i dont know.... im going to leave it unplugged and just keep playing my unmodded xbox.... better safe than sorry.

I dont see how they can SEE a modded fan..... i mean think about it, if i get the intercooler for the back and a stand fan that the 360 sits on with a usb and i have my zune charging..... wouldnt that be more power than a 12v fan??? i mean im sure they are just telling you this so you wont open your xbox.... next time you call in, ask if you open your xbox and change the grease on the chips... can they tell. I BET THEY WILL TELL YOU YES.

Tranman · « **Reply #40 on:** December 22, 2007, 02:05:00 AM »

It does make sense that M$ should be able to read internal fan speed values...especially since almost all modern computers bios do report that. Download a CPU fan utility and you can easily retrieve fan voltage and speed values. I doubt anyone really has a leg to stand on for getting banned for a 12V fan mod...since that indicates the case was opened which violates TOS.

OuTeR HeAvEn · « **Reply #41 on:** December 22, 2007, 02:07:00 AM »

Ok just a moment guys i have many xbox with 12v mod on my store and no ban till now but after these news i must do a trick to keep that mod.
So i just thought something and i want to share with you guys.
If you have not plug anything at all on fan socket then you can simple put another extra fans (for example on the cpu heatsink) and after that anything will work normally .
Please tell me your opinion on this guys (noobs not reply on this)

Paperstack.1 · « **Reply #42 on:** December 22, 2007, 01:36:00 AM »

QUOTE(spivey8 @ Dec 22 2007, 03:37 AM)

I dont see how they can SEE a modded fan..... i mean think about it, if i get the intercooler for the back and a stand fan that the 360 sits on with a usb and i have my zune charging..... wouldnt that be more power than a 12v fan??? i mean im sure they are just telling you this so you wont open your xbox.... next time you call in, ask if you open your xbox and change the grease on the chips... can they tell. I BET THEY WILL TELL YOU YES.

Funniest sentences i've read in this thread so far. Funny and true

Mozbius · « **Reply #43 on:** December 22, 2007, 02:33:00 AM »

So that explains why some people got banned with a iXtreem 1.4 xbox360. They most have had other hardware mods that affected internal voltage?

SargeRock · « **Reply #44 on:** December 22, 2007, 02:53:00 AM »

If I remember correctly I thought voltages on bios ranged from .3 to 5 volts. Correct me if I am wrong on that.......BUT most importantly is that you should use a WALL PACK type power supply like from ranges 6 to 12 volts for a EXTERNAL power for that fan NOT the PSU from the 360. That is pretty much getting around draining from the 360's power. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I still believe MS can read changes in firmware somehow.....is "Firmguard" stopping them really? or does THAT give criteria for banning? not being able to "see" their box?

? SMOKE IN THE AIR

this is getting to be a real pain.....

Sarge

This post has been edited by SargeRock: Dec 22 2007, 11:04 AM

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