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[the_nerdy]

Looks like I was write! haha

The jitter affect did not work as well as Microsoft hoped.

However, lasers due to the end of their life??? wow! this machine hasn't even been out that long.  LOL   That is what people get for a crapy system.

Anyways,  maybe if we mod our firmware, their is a way to get the laser to always act like this.  The reason being is because if we know the bogus data that is being sent.  Then Microsoft would have no way of telling if this is actually modded or just a bad laser.


Looks like they tweaked there laser jitter affect up a notch to much

Anywayas,   That is just my idea is to make everyones lasers input this way.   and maybe you will not be able to be banned for this reason, or you can get unbanned.

[Paperstack.1]

I still prefer the safe route and make sure the stealth files are 100% correct before running them in my 360 after copying them

[ilovecrack]

oh snaps. Talismoon will prob be cool though, right?

[wumbo65]

i just got banned today.  it's funny though that a backup hasn't touched my xbox in a few months.  all i have been playing rock band and guitar hero(the legit ones).  anyone know what happened?

[LegendDJ]

Personally I've had enough of Microsoft; they are making the experience of having any products of theirs a pain in the butt. From Product activation in Windows, to the crappy programming on the Zune, unreliable hardware in the 360, it’s just ridiculous. They are becoming to big for their pantaloons.

[Reaper527]

am in correct in interpreting that as microsoft is within their rights to ban people for a 12v mod, however they aren't doing it at the current time?

regardless, great work to everyone involved in figuring out the news on the ban scheme.

also, to the person asking about a talismoon fan, i would assume that you should be fine if you hooked it up to where the old fans got their power, but if your drawing your power from a 12v source... (also keep in mind that its speculation on my part that you should be fine as long as your power source is the same as the original, not a proven fact)

[syntaxerror329]

QUOTE(ilovecrack @ Dec 22 2007, 12:03 AM)

oh snaps. Talismoon will prob be cool though, right?

Wow I just came here to post a message on this exact topic.

Current:
Talismoon Fan 160mA - Original Fan: 250mA
Speed: 4100RPM - Original Fan: 4600RPM

I have had a customer ask me to order a fan and install it. I have it right here. He does not have the firmware hack mainly because he fears being banned. Now i feel i have to tell him that he might get banned.

Does anyone know if i could add a resistor to somehow make the Talismoon appear to be drawing 250mA? I am sure some of you tech geeks here can figure this out with ohms law.

Then microsoft will probably say we banned you becuase your fan is going 5000 RPM too slow. LOL

So i guess i gotta tell this guy that loves his xbox so much he wants to protect it that microsoft might ban him

So SAD.

This post has been edited by syntaxerror329: Dec 22 2007, 06:23 AM

[ilovecrack]

I've had my talismoon in for awhile, and i think it would probably be fine since i'm not banned...  Thats a dumb thing to ban ppl for though.

[arapozo]

So if I connected my fans from the PSU 12v directly I'm at risk of getting banned?

[superost]

QUOTE(HotKnife420 @ Dec 22 2007, 04:59 AM)

Preventing the RROD does indeed violoate the TOS for LIVE, as well as the EULA (which you don't have to agree with to purchase). Personally, I think using an intercooler is just a bad idea anyway, but here's a *new* reason why (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Who cares about their "TOS" or "EULA"+- banning users from Live for this reason is lame (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) ..
You lose you're warranty by opening it anyway, so MS isn't (or shouldn't be) repairing any damage you might make by doing the mod or adding some other stuff anyway. And I'm talking about the 12V mod, not an intercooler ...
Also you're not even messing with their precious Live System - this is a simple hardware mod with no affect to the software part.. or am I missing something here..

This post has been edited by superost: Dec 22 2007, 06:47 AM

[darylzero]

This whole little "update" is total conjecture.  Is there any kind of proof that says MS was checking kreon properties and disc jitter?  If not, than why assume that was why they started unbanning people (the bad laser theory)?  The whole 'you CAN get banned from a fan mod....where is the proof anyone has EVER been banned for that?   I am surprised this was posted as news on the front page of x-s.

This post has been edited by darylzero: Dec 22 2007, 06:18 AM

[ilovecrack]

Yeaa, smh @ throwing down the solution be4 u actually read the article.  It says its from a trusted source, and a M$ rep said thats y he was banned

[elocin671]

if i get banned for a 12v fan mod. then microsoft can kiss my a$$. id hate to open 360's ive done the mod to in order to put the stock fans back in. and get 3 red lights because of it. its complete bs. its not like my 12v fans  are making me play "back-ups", or making my 360 any better. besides cooling the shit out of it in hope of preventing 3rod. im probably gona get banned now because i know microsoft has someone searching forums. and that asshole is gona get my ip addess and ban my console.

[Chan163]

How should they be able to detect different fans by measuring the voltage? The voltage doesn't change, at least not enough to be sure it's not the original fan. Dirt and failing bearings would have an effect on the fans too.

[JBmtk]

QUOTE(elocin671 @ Dec 22 2007, 01:11 AM)

if i get banned for a 12v fan mod. then microsoft can kiss my a$$. id hate to open 360's ive done the mod to in order to put the stock fans back in. and get 3 red lights because of it. its complete bs. its not like my 12v fans  are making me play "back-ups", or making my 360 any better. besides cooling the shit out of it in hope of preventing 3rod. im probably gona get banned now because i know microsoft has someone searching forums. and that asshole is gona get my ip addess and ban my console.

ahahahah



I agree with the last statement of this article....simply don't play backups on live. ..lets be honest here people