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More Xbox Live ban waves this weekend Posted by Iriez | December 16 19:45 EST | News Category: Xbox360

From users on the forums, and other networking sites... It appears that MS has started banning people over the past week (happy holidays xbox360 users!). As always, we would like to gather data and input from the community as to what may be causing these bans. It appears to effect the new ixtreme 1.4 aswell as the older ixtreme and non ixtreme versions, and all of the drives have been effected. We even have a few reports of a few trusted people in the community who were banned and had not played anything but a retail copy. As of this moment we do not know if a new security was implemented, or if they are further scrutinizing the already given criteria (SS, DMI, PFI alterations, timings, etc). So if you have gotten banned over the past week, we would ask you to share the following with us in the forum thread below, otherwise, please do not post in the thread! Bans only! A) Firmware Version, drive type (hitachi, samsung, benq) and when you upgraded/installed that version. Also include if you spoofed the version. B) Previous firmware version's, or if the console is freshly modded or refurbished (please include manufactor date) C) Backups played over the past month(and whether they were checked with kreon checker, if not, please check the SS and report the results) D) Originals played over the past month E) Method of backing up games (as always, piracy is not tolerable on xbox-scene, so if you have downloaded these games, please do not bother posting. Thanks to all who have contributed in the past, and those for the future

[Iriez]

To keep this thread clean and organized, im going to ask that users please do not post unless they are infact, BANNED. If you do post and you are not banned, be aware that your post will be removed.

This post has been edited by Iriez: Dec 17 2007, 03:33 AM

[penguin318]

Finally got banned, 12 Days after I cancelled my LIVE GOLD  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/jester.gif)

Hitachi 47, Flashed only once Oct 22 2006 Dont remember what FW version



This post has been edited by penguin318: Dec 17 2007, 03:15 AM

[BigSteel]

If it is true that people who have only used originals on Live have been banned, then we have a serious problem.  That would indicate that M$ can detect the firmware itself, wouldn't it?  My understanding was that this was impossible, without putting the xbox into recovery mode.

This post has been edited by BigSteel: Dec 17 2007, 03:53 AM

[Iriez]

QUOTE(BigSteel @ Dec 16 2007, 09:38 PM)

If it is true that people who have only used originals on Live have been banned, then we have a serious problem.  That would indicate that M$ can detect the firmware itself, wouldn't it?  My understanding was that this was impossible, without putting the xbox into recovery mode.

The firmware can be detected through other means. c4e has worked long and hard to predict these holes and patch them, but im confident MS has found a different way to analyze the data to determine that a modified firmware was used, e.g. jitter.

I highly doubt they are actually reading the firmware and sending it over live to MS.

[slimfast]

BANNED  dec. 14-07

A:  v2.4 hitachi v.79
B:  new out of box, never even powered it on. untill it was done with firm v2.4...  july-07-07
C:  medal of honor, call of duty 4, monster jam, party animals,  all good on the kreon tester.
D:  none, never online (i like to keep my games in verry new shape)
E:  kreon drive, 1.1

[HotKnife420]

Banned on Saturday Dec. 16th, 2007
A.)  FW info:
Firmware Version iXtreme 1.4 12x Flashed 08Dec2007
Drive: Hitachi 46 DG

B.) Console info:
Self-refurbished (bought with RROD)
Manufactured 16Sept2005 (NTSC/J)
Console was flashed with iXtreme 1.3 from July until Dec.

C.) Backups played over the past month:
Pass KreonCheckr:
Gears of War (Nightly)
お姉チャンバラvorteX [Onechanbara Vortex] (Past week)
Tony Hawk's Project 8 (about an hour; Nov 30th)
Tenchu Z (about an hour; Nov 30th)
Call Of Duty 4 (couple times; Nov 30th)
Assassin's Creed (couple hours; Nov 26th)
CSI Hard Evidence (several times; last played Nov. 19th)
Naruto: Rise Of A Ninja (several times; last played Nov. 19th)
Beautiful Katamari (half an hour; Nov. 8th)

Fail KreonCheckr:
Zoids Alternative (about an hour; Nov. 1st)
The Orange Box (several times; last played Oct. 10th)
Halo 3 (couple times; last played Oct. 3rd)


The following I know were booted on the console, but not played past the main menu screen:
Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Failed KreonCheckr; Nov. 20th)
Clive Barker's Jherico (Passed KreonCheckr; Nov. 11th)

D.) Originals played over the past month
OXM Demo Disc #73 (Can't say when percisely)
Beautiful Katamari
Call Of Duty 4
Naruto: Rise of A Ninja
Assassin's Creed

E.) Method of backing up games:
wxripper + xdvdmulleter
borrow my friend's ms25 box to get SS if mulleter can't fix.

This post has been edited by HotKnife420: Dec 17 2007, 04:43 AM

[BennyBou]

It might be good to ask the banned persons to check there Z status code, I once tought I was banned but my Z code wasn't like if it was banned... turned out it was my brother who played with the settings of my router...

Anyway a banned console chould have a 190D code on the second section of the Z code if I recall well.

[mlapaglia]

i was wondering if i was the only one since there was no news story,

BANNED on the 14th

BANNED dec. 14-07

A: v2.4 samsung ms25 originally
B: started with teh first ixtreme version, upgraded to all the other ones as they came out
C: call of duty 4 and 3, halo 3, guitar hero 3, rock band, guitar hero 2, some bad SS some good SS
D: all of the above were on live as originals as well
E: kreon drive, .9 - 1.1

[sith]

Banned sometime in the last week, Its a launch 360 ms2.5 that had been to M$ once last spring for rrod, this was my live box so only extremely rarely was there ever a backup in it, and when there was the network was disconnected... that makes both of my xbox's banned now.. if i had to guess.. even after reading iriez's post.. i would say that they are detecting the firmware itself not the media.. prolly in some sort of crc match check, as iriez mentioned they wouldn't(couldnt) send the whole firmware to ms.. but a flag if the crc doesn't match a list of valid crc's could exist... or maybe I'm way off and its a spoofing thing...who knows..

A) It had 1.2c on the drive since that fw's release that was what was on it when it was banned.. spoofed to ms2.5 to prevent e64(or whatever the code is)
B)Launch console, was refirbed once but its the same console...
C)In the last month NO backups have been in this machine.. as i mentioned it was rare for this console to see a backup... it was prolly 2 or more months ago that a copy of halo3 which passed xdvdmulleter 10.2 and kreoncheck was played while ethernet was disconnected.
D)Originals played in the last month include assassins creed, cod4, halo3, rainbox6vegas, and others that i can't remember from rogers video.. nhl08 and something else..
E)Samsung 0800 mode plus XBC ... but the halo3 I mentioned was a kreon rip done at a friends that passed the checker.. but any other backups would have been from the sammy 0800.

Hope c4e can retaliate with something... i know he can do it but first we need to know what ms is actually doing.. which we don't...maybe he does though.. falcon 360 here i come..

.sith.

[El3M3nT]

Banned: saturday 15th
Xtreme 1.4
Toshiba samsung: signed into live played guitar hero 2 backup and got banned the next day.

This post has been edited by El3M3nT: Dec 17 2007, 05:28 AM

[riddick32]

banned as of 12/16.  i was playing until midnight(et) on friday.

a) 5.2b(xtreme?  i cant remember)
launch unit, flashed march(ish) 2007
c) played crackdown on thursday/friday, rockband thursday and something else on wed.



i dunno, im not to sussed about it.  Twas a good run, it was bound to happen.

[kutiya]

Banned as of 12/16/07

A) Firmware Version/drive type :iXtreme 1.4 on Samsung TSH943A MS25 spoofed as MS28
Previous firmware version's, Xtreme 33, 4.0, 5.3C bought new in 2005
C) Backups played over the past month : COD4, Skate, and newest one played was Condemned checked with Mulleter 10.2 beta everything reported ok, did not use kreon checker no drive with kreon fw.
D) Originals played over the past month : Tiger Woods 06'
E) Method of backing up games : MS25 drive with xtreme 33.

[v.tosin]

Was banned yesterday.I already posted this in another post of Live banning but just for the info

Hitachi 47 drive the first xbox when it came out.
Falshed first C4eva 2.4
Then 1.2 rev2
Finally 1.4 12x speed.

i usually play originals online which include dead or alive nfs most wanted.
Never played halo 3 even on the system.

Checked all my backups with keron checker.it says good keron rip.
Some backups are wxripper method and some from the [edit]NO NO BAD PLACE. [/edit]
All stealthed and ss checked.

Was my oldest 360 damn .

I gave the 360 to a friend and he inserted his hard disk and browse thru some of the xbox live arcade games and then turned it off Next moning I called to come on live andhe told he couldnt i fiannly aked him the error code and damn its banned.And yes his hdd was fropm a banned console and i know it does not depends on the profile.but it was working firn a day back to me.

Last played retail game dead or alive.
Have played backups of guitar hero 3, call of duty 4, Assaassian Creed all ethernet unplugged.

Thanks if that helps

This post has been edited by Iriez: Dec 17 2007, 06:31 AM

[BanditRW]

BANNED DEC. 15-07

A: ixtreme 1.2 Hitachi v.46D
B: Launch Console MFG 10/15/05,flashed first w xtreme V2.4 and then upgraded as newer versions were released.
C: Mass Effect,Star Wars the complete Saga,Spiderman :Friend or Foe-all tested bad with Kreon Checker.
D: HALO 3
E: TSSTcorp DVD-ROM SH-D162C TS05 w/Kreon V1.0 and XBC V2.7

I have 2 other 360's not banned and I never played the named backups on those 360's.

This post has been edited by BanditRW: Dec 17 2007, 06:11 AM