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[baberg]

QUOTE(DuBob4432 @ Dec 13 2007, 05:31 PM)

here was my method - lmk if i did it correctly -
i tried to do it directly from mulleter from the disc but couldn't get it to work, so i made isos of my originals w/ imgburn to the hdd (not many so not a big deal), then i used mulleter 10.2 beta to extract the ss.bin and then used kreon checker to check the ss.bin.

You re-ripped the originals and checked the new SS.BINs?  No, that's not what we want.  We want the SS.BINs of the backups.  Read the SS.BIN from your backups and check it using the KreonChecker.

[the soul poet]

QUOTE(DuBob4432 @ Dec 13 2007, 10:31 PM)

ok, now i have tested my backups of my originals and all came back as "good kreon rip".

here was my method - lmk if i did it correctly -
i tried to do it directly from mulleter from the disc but couldn't get it to work, so i made isos of my originals w/ imgburn to the hdd (not many so not a big deal), then i used mulleter 10.2 beta to extract the ss.bin and then used kreon checker to check the ss.bin.

all came back as ok.

i was banned using a 5.2c ms28 drive and have never used anything but my originals or backups of my originals - i have played my backups signed in but i have not ever d/l a game from the internet - these are all my own - i controlled everything - flashing the 360, flashing the sh-d162c - flashing the pioneer.  i used a kreon sh-d162c drive and burned them onto verbatim media w/ a pioneer 111d w/ tdb 1.29 firmware.

hope this helps some people out - if i didn't check them the correct way, lmk and i will redo it to whatever the correct way is.

The main reason for the Ixtreme firmwares is down to timing issues dealt with incorrectly. If you have perfect rips/orginals there is a possiblility your games would return incorrect values to Xbox live.

So although your games appear in the good list (which was debunked anyway as Kreon wasn't bad, it's how the firware dealth with kreon that was) your timings returned to M$ can be way off.  Also you have to remember Kreon fw has jitter included.  M$ requesting a value with jitter added is still potentially wrong if the fw can not manage right which your fw can not.

To the guy who was banned and then unbanned (if it actually gave you banned codes).  If my thoughts on how the live servers work are correct there being multiple live servers, you probably are banned from the 1st you got the message from but it takes time for your serial/Console ID to be blocked from the whole Xbox Live network.

Last may at the start of the first bannings. I was banned after playing a non stealth UEFA (incorrectly stealth) I got the codes but was able to connect after about 5 tries.  The following day it no longer worked.

This post has been edited by the soul poet: Dec 14 2007, 12:03 AM

[DonnyRockDude]

Yeah that's exactly what I'm going to do Devedander, just thought I would ask another opinion first. One of my friends noted that a message popped up regarding violation of terms, however I didn't get this message. Is this absolute rubbish or an actual banning procedure. Apologies if this has been asked before.


Chris

[the soul poet]

QUOTE(DonnyRockDude @ Dec 13 2007, 11:05 PM)

Yeah that's exactly what I'm going to do Devedander, just thought I would ask another opinion first. One of my friends noted that a message popped up regarding violation of terms, however I didn't get this message. Is this absolute rubbish or an actual banning procedure. Apologies if this has been asked before.
Chris

Chris, you must do an xbox live test go to nat when it fails ask for more info under nat.

[DonnyRockDude]

QUOTE(the soul poet @ Dec 13 2007, 11:07 PM)

Chris, you must do an xbox live test go to nat when it fails ask for more info under nat.

Thanks dude, was just being a lil' stupid and checking error codes instead of NAT. Definitely banned lol...


Ah well looks like a new 'three fiddy' will have to be purchased!


Chris

[jooksingjai77]

to the guys who want us to check the ss.bin files

what if I checked the ss.bin file before burning?  is that acceptable as well?

[Hercules Man]

let them ban, the day will come when we will be able to change our online key, then m$ will be f00k##;d


H MAn

QUOTE(jooksingjai77 @ Dec 14 2007, 01:29 AM)

to the guys who want us to check the ss.bin files

what if I checked the ss.bin file before burning?  is that acceptable as well?

Yes you can extract the ss from the iso before burning, same as extracting from the disc


H MAn


This post has been edited by Hercules Man: Dec 14 2007, 01:04 AM

[DuBob4432]

QUOTE(baberg @ Dec 13 2007, 03:51 PM)

You re-ripped the originals and checked the new SS.BINs?  No, that's not what we want.  We want the SS.BINs of the backups.  Read the SS.BIN from your backups and check it using the KreonChecker.

sorry i meant to say my backups.....

[DuBob4432]

QUOTE(the soul poet @ Dec 13 2007, 04:02 PM)

The main reason for the Ixtreme firmwares is down to timing issues dealt with incorrectly. If you have perfect rips/orginals there is a possiblility your games would return incorrect values to Xbox live.

So although your games appear in the good list (which was debunked anyway as Kreon wasn't bad, it's how the firware dealth with kreon that was) your timings returned to M$ can be way off.  Also you have to remember Kreon fw has jitter included.  M$ requesting a value with jitter added is still potentially wrong if the fw can not manage right which your fw can not.

To the guy who was banned and then unbanned (if it actually gave you banned codes).  If my thoughts on how the live servers work are correct there being multiple live servers, you probably are banned from the 1st you got the message from but it takes time for your serial/Console ID to be blocked from the whole Xbox Live network.

Last may at the start of the first bannings. I was banned after playing a non stealth UEFA (incorrectly stealth) I got the codes but was able to connect after about 5 tries.  The following day it no longer worked.

i was under the impression that only the 1.4 version dealt w/ 360 vs 0 for a degree?

[19Ripper75]

QUOTE(WTFudge @ Dec 12 2007, 02:13 PM)

Seems like the ban got people who couldn't arsed to upgrade to latest F/W . Oh yeah how does the registration thing work ? My consoles about 15 months old (bought in May 07) and i'm 'out of warrenty' ......


Any word ? Not banned (1.2IX -> 1.3IX -> 1.4 Ixtreme Samsung )

 

I never upgraded my firmware and I'm not banned yet. I'm running Xtreme 4.2A, and I play on Live for about 4 hours a day.

[Devedander]

Interesting... how long have you been playing on live modded?

This either says that the ban process has some major flaws (that is not even a stealth firmware), they just lag sometimes in banning some people (ie the ban request was sent in but is taking time to propogate... a long time) or you are on some kind of list to be watched/banned/whatever at MS's discretion...

[motox88]

So what is the process to get back online again?  A new 360 and pay for live again?  Or just update the firmware to some new rev and then pay for live again?

[Devedander]

New 360, recover your live account... no need to pay for live again.

QUOTE(Hercules Man @ Dec 14 2007, 01:10 AM)

let them ban, the day will come when we will be able to change our online key, then m$ will be f00k##;d
H MAn

Well except that MS has a master list of legit numbers, so to replace your banned list you will need to buy another 360 to get another legit key... so I don't see how we win...

In fact they did recently manage to change the key on an xbox through the timing attack and some other complicated stuff... got unbanned by using the key from an unbanned 360... but they had to get the unbanned 360... so no one really gets ahead.

[motox88]

QUOTE(Devedander @ Dec 13 2007, 11:54 PM)

New 360, recover your live account... no need to pay for live again.

cool to use the old HD again?

[Devedander]

QUOTE(motox88 @ Dec 14 2007, 06:07 AM)

cool to use the old HD again?

Most people seem to say so...