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[Apidya]

Just flashed a benq & have a bit of good advice.

Don't bother with the quiet version as the drive is unable to play game videos fast enough, resulting in them stuttering. 2x read is clearly not fast enough even when Verbatims written at 2.4x are used.

Flashing the drive with the fast version solved it. So anything 5x speed upwards is highly recommended.
Works like a charm.

Thx to all involved :-)

[Toddler]

QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Nov 8 2007, 02:09 PM)

If I trusted batch files which spoofed drives and injected keys, I would too

There goes my faith in TeamXecuter.

[Audioboxer]

I flashed at 5x and im amazed at how much quieter it is.

Games all play fine as well!

One thing though... the drive seems to be "thrashing" quite a bit.  Games are silky smooth, it's just the drive sounds like its working hard to read the disc.

Discs are Vertabatim.

Anyone esle running 5x have the same thing?

I'm considering going up to 8x to see what its like!

(I noticed it a lot in COD4)

This post has been edited by Audioboxer: Nov 9 2007, 01:43 AM

[BlackWar]

I have a question reguarding the xtreme (not ixtreme) benq fw, and forgive me if this sounds noobish, does this firmware require DL disks? or can they be made on standard +R media....keep in mind, I dont go on live so I dont care about the games not being fully stealthed.

[Martinchris23]

QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 8 2007, 11:43 PM)

There goes my faith in TeamXecuter.

I'd love to know what my comments have to do with you having (or not having) faith in a product I have no say in? I think in your naivety you assume that being appointed a moderator on a support forum means It's my product, or that my comments on *this* forum have any reflection of the opinions of TeamXecuter.

Have you never heard of individuality? Do I *really* need a disclaimer in my sig, or are you mature enough to work it out for yourself?

QUOTE(caster420 @ Nov 8 2007, 08:43 PM)

Uhhh... firmtool isnt a batch file and that is all the 'Make iXtreme Firmware' command calls.  So, i'm not exactly sure what you're referring to...

Caster.

Unless I really need to, I avoid command-line tools where possible since a syntax error could actually cause more harm than good. A solid GUI-based tool like FWTB suits me better, that's all I'm saying. It's just a personal preference. Not only that, but I have had no experience with using firmtool in the manner you suggested. Rather than jump on someone for posting a mini-guide, how about you post one first next time?

[Toddler]

QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Nov 8 2007, 08:19 PM)

I'd love to know what my comments have to do with you having (or not having) faith in a product I have no say in? I think in your naivety you assume that being appointed a moderator on a support forum means It's my product, or that my comments on *this* forum have any reflection of the opinions of TeamXecuter.

Have you never heard of individuality? Do I *really* need a disclaimer in my sig, or are you mature enough to work it out for yourself?

It was basically a lighthearted comment, to which you've grossly overreacted.  But as the saying goes, toss a rock at a dog and if he yelps, you know he got hit.  I guess you just got hit.

And since you asked, I think you're retarded to say you don't trust batch files that spoof drives and inject keys.  Those batch files are tested before they ever trickle down to you, and they ensure consistency so that some dickhead doesn't type the wrong syntax and brick his drive.  So there it is.

What does that have to do with TeamXecuter?  If you go bragging about it in your sig, you've willingly chosen to represent.  You're the one wrapping yourself in their reputation, not me.  And your comment was retarded, which I think is fair to hold against you, and by extension, them.  Retarded comments = diminished credibility in my book.

QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Nov 8 2007, 08:19 PM)

Unless I really need to, I avoid command-line tools where possible since a syntax error could actually cause more harm than good. A solid GUI-based tool like FWTB suits me better, that's all I'm saying. It's just a personal preference. Not only that, but I have had no experience with using firmtool in the manner you suggested. Rather than jump on someone for posting a mini-guide, how about you post one first next time?

I think it's pretty damn funny that your objection to command-line tools is the increased risk of fat-fingering the syntax, yet you don't trust batch files, either.  Like I said, the entire purpose of the batch files is to prevent fucktards with "no experience using Firmtool" like you from fucking themselves out of a 360.  There's nothing inherently more solid or stable about a GUI-based tool.  Pretty clickable buttons don't make an app more stable.  Again, retarded.

As for the mini-guide pissing match, Caster can defend himself, but I can assure you he has provided more information here than you ever will.

[Carlitosbaby]

QUOTE(BlackWar @ Nov 8 2007, 08:55 PM)

I have a question reguarding the xtreme (not ixtreme) benq fw, and forgive me if this sounds noobish, does this firmware require DL disks? or can they be made on standard +R media....keep in mind, I dont go on live so I dont care about the games not being fully stealthed.

you are noobish lol all xbox 360 games are dual layer so how are you gonna burn 7+ gigs on a 4.7 gig disc?

[BlackWar]

I am not that big of a noob (do a search on my nic), I have just got into the 360 scene and was uncertian if the DL in origionals was part of the copy protection (layer 1 had game data and layer 0 had just the copy protection/dvd video files (hence the low TOC and inability to see the data files in a PC...part of some scheme to only allow a PC drive to only access layer 0, but the 360 could access both) not to mention that I do not posess the proper hardware at the moment to fully extract an xbox360 disk (and the swap method does not do a 100% full rip)).

anyway, thanks for the answer

[kain]

QUOTE(Audioboxer @ Nov 9 2007, 12:42 AM)

I flashed at 5x and im amazed at how much quieter it is.

Games all play fine as well!

One thing though... the drive seems to be "thrashing" quite a bit.  Games are silky smooth, it's just the drive sounds like its working hard to read the disc.

Discs are Vertabatim.

Anyone esle running 5x have the same thing?

I'm considering going up to 8x to see what its like!

(I noticed it a lot in COD4)

let us know how 8x turns out

[penguinofdoom564]

I reflashed with 5x. Previously I was using "fast" or 12x. Huge difference in noise level...pretty much back to stock levels as far as I can tell. The only difference is more "thrashing" than with stock firmware but I think that's to be expected since burned discs will always be a little harder to read then pressed originals.

The best part is that load times seem the same as before (I didn't time it like toddler but I'm not noticing a significant difference).

Glad I switched.

[Toddler]

I have noticed the occasional momentary glitch on FMV using 5x, like during the opening to Viva Pinata Party Animals.  Flashed to 8x and all glitches are gone, but the drive is much louder.

I have been running my 360 with the white shell removed for so long that I really have no concept of how much quieter the box may sound, if at all, when I reassemble.  Anybody care to weigh in on that?

[Martinchris23]

QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 9 2007, 03:12 AM)

It was basically a lighthearted comment, to which you've grossly overreacted.  But as the saying goes, toss a rock at a dog and if he yelps, you know he got hit.  I guess you just got hit.

In the grown up world of the Internet, light-hearted comments and sarcasm are accompanied by indicators of such. Your post displayed none of these and was replied to accordingly. I should have just ignored it TBH, as it was so far OT it was best left out for the trash. I'll try and find you an Internet etiquette guide if you should need one. Look up trolling, which is effectively what you are doing here.

QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 9 2007, 03:12 AM)

And since you asked, I think you're retarded to say you don't trust batch files that spoof drives and inject keys.  Those batch files are tested before they ever trickle down to you, and they ensure consistency so that some dickhead doesn't type the wrong syntax and brick his drive.  So there it is.

I don't trust any automated process without being able to analyse what steps are carried out. Typing in a one line command where I just include two BIN files is something I would personally avoid. Why does this offend you so much? Did you write it?

QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 9 2007, 03:12 AM)

What does that have to do with TeamXecuter?  If you go bragging about it in your sig, you've willingly chosen to represent. You're the one wrapping yourself in their reputation, not me.  And your comment was retarded, which I think is fair to hold against you, and by extension, them.  Retarded comments = diminished credibility in my book.

It's mentioned in my sig so anyone wishing assistance on Xbox/TX issues can contact me if the TX website is down. All of a sudden, every word I post makes them accountable. Riiiiight....

QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 9 2007, 03:12 AM)

I think it's pretty damn funny that your objection to command-line tools is the increased risk of fat-fingering the syntax, yet you don't trust batch files, either.  Like I said, the entire purpose of the batch files is to prevent fucktards with "no experience using Firmtool" like you from fucking themselves out of a 360.  There's nothing inherently more solid or stable about a GUI-based tool.  Pretty clickable buttons don't make an app more stable.  Again, retarded.

See my above comments on you being a troll. Peristently referring to someone as a retard/fucktard because of their preference counts as such.

What really befuddles me here is that your personal attack on me started with me posting a mini-guide for someone asking a question. Tell me, what did any of this have to do with you?

QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 9 2007, 03:12 AM)

As for the mini-guide pissing match, Caster can defend himself, but I can assure you he has provided more information here than you ever will.

Why you're getting involved in this situation is beyond me, other than you're spoiling for a fight or my suspicions of you just being a troll are confirmed. I suggest you go elsewhere if this is the case.

[pinkerton]

Rrrr Rite, Carm down Carm down.      

[caster420]

QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Nov 9 2007, 04:41 AM)

I don't trust any automated process without being able to analyse what steps are carried out. Typing in a one line command where I just include two BIN files is something I would personally avoid.

Yet something that is visual and still essentially hidden makes you warm and fuzzy.  If you really wanted to know what it did and how it worked, you would actually look into it.  Try actually running through the steps that i stated.  Once you are finished, do a hex compare of the benq-ix.bin i created, the benq-ix.bin you created, and the iXtreme hacked firmware source.  Then you can actually comment on whats better or not, as you have no clue what you are talking about.  

As far as stability is concerned, in no way would i agree that a GUI app is less likely to have a 'syntax' error.  You dont want to know how many times i've had 360 FIrmware Toolbox freeze while preforming different operations, including in the middle of flashing a drive.  That resulted in it being bricked and me having to desolder the tsop.

Caster.

This post has been edited by caster420: Nov 9 2007, 12:01 PM

[Martinchris23]

QUOTE(caster420 @ Nov 9 2007, 10:57 AM)

Yet something that is visual and still essentially hidden makes you warm and fuzzy.  If you really wanted to know what it did and how it worked, you would actually look into it.  Try actually running through the steps that i stated.  Once you are finished, do a hex compare of the benq-ix.bin i created, the benq-ix.bin you created, and the iXtreme hacked firmware source.  Then you can actually comment on whats better or not, as you have no clue what you are talking about.  

As far as stability is concerned, in no way would i agree that a GUI app is less likely to have a 'syntax' error.  You dont want to know how many times i've had 360 FIrmware Toolbox freeze while preforming different operations, including in the middle of flashing a drive.  That resulted in it being bricked and me having to desolder the tsop.

Caster.

Proper Usage: firmtool OriginalFile HackedFile

How does this tell me what it does? There isn't even a readme file attached to explain. How am I supposed to know that the utility not only copies the key, but also spoofs the destination firmware? The only person who knew this information prior to first use was you, since you wrote it!!! Therefore, why would I even try the utility let alone suggest it to someone else when it's not even documented in the release?

As I said, FWTB is my app of choice for this purpose because I know before using it what it can and can't do. You shouldn't throw your toys out of the pram because someone else suggests using another tool than yours, especially since you didn't actually make it clear what it could do to begin with.

As for not having no clue what I'm talking about, I was programming over 15 years ago and never left it to guesswork as to what a program actually did. If a customer didn't know what a program could do, that was MY fault, not theirs.