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[just3847]

i dont know if anyone else has tried an Assassin's Creed backup yet with 5x, but HOLY GOD check out the time it takes to get a hold of the game even starting up at first, it makes the same constant click until it reads the disk properly and the screen shows up like 25-30 seconds later that it makes during Splinter Cell DA...is this even right? it's crazy long. I thought it wasn't gonna boot at all for a while. It's a shame that one little thing is like that cause you have to go through that shit every time. Ruins it for me. Someone else check it out too..

[mironicus]

Sounds more like your backup media is crap. Make a disc quality check with Nero.

This post has been edited by mironicus: Nov 12 2007, 12:33 AM

[just3847]

QUOTE(mironicus @ Nov 11 2007, 06:30 PM)

Sounds more like your backup media is crap. Make a disc quality check with Nero.

that's hilarious..it was burned on a Verbatim DL made in Singapore (the better kind apparently) burned at 2.4x, and my backups are always fine. If you have read the thread it is because of the 5x speed of the firmware..did you not read about what's going on with it? Others reported the same with Splinter Cell DA so it's obviously gonna happen to everyone with the same specific games at specific loading points of the games.

By the way, I had the name Just4747 (I had posted earlier in this thread) and now my password wont get me in and when I do a Forgotten password request, I get no e-mail about it ever. Is there a reason my name was taken away from me or whatever? Can a mod please PM me or post telling me why it doesn't work anymore, I didn't break any rules or talk any shit on the name

[GMtheBest]

QUOTE(just3847 @ Nov 11 2007, 11:22 PM)

i dont know if anyone else has tried an Assassin's Creed backup yet with 5x, but HOLY GOD check out the time it takes to get a hold of the game even starting up at first, it makes the same constant click until it reads the disk properly and the screen shows up like 25-30 seconds later that it makes during Splinter Cell DA...is this even right? it's crazy long. I thought it wasn't gonna boot at all for a while. It's a shame that one little thing is like that cause you have to go through that shit every time. Ruins it for me. Someone else check it out too..

I had the exact same thing with my backup and original copy of the game using the 8X firmware, took over 1 min for the game to load once it is inserted.  I flashed it with the 12X firmware and all was good.

[Toddler]

QUOTE(just3847 @ Nov 11 2007, 07:10 PM)

If you have read the thread it is because of the 5x speed of the firmware..did you not read about what's going on with it?

Regarding the slower firmware, I don't think it's accurate to say that something's "going on with it" as if there's a problem.  The Samsung "quiet" firmware does the same thing.  If you slow down the drive speed, it's going to take longer to read...that's just how it is.  In some games, it will be worse than others.  If the game is loading a lot of small files from different areas of the disc, that's going to take longer than a sequential read of a few large files.  Those kinds of things will be exaggerated on the slower firmware.

I'm still on the fence as to which is the "best" firmware.  The 2x is pointless, 5x is just as quiet (good) but can take a while to load certain games (not so good).  The 8x is a little faster (good), but doesn't totally eliminate the issues (not so good) and it is nearly as loud as 12x (bad).  With 12x you get the best performance (good), but it sounds like a jet preparing for takeoff (bad).

Obviously everything is a tradeoff, so now you've got the data to decide what's right for you.  Make a choice and move ahead.

[penguinofdoom564]

I was getting DRE on Assasin's Creed with the 5x. I played the game last night and even earned 3 achievements but today when I loaded my saved game it gave me a DRE. Not from the title screen but after it puts you into the "white zone", it would load but then right after I got in game it would come up with the error.

I switched to 12x just now and while it takes half as long to load I still get the same error. I'm re-burning at 1x now (2.4x on my current disc, which is what the media is rated for) to see if that fixes it. I only have Ritek D01 unfortunately...I know it's the second choice but Fry's stopped carrying Verbatim and nobody else seems to have it. I'll be ordering some this week though...only bought a 15 stack of the Ritek.

edit: Or not...looks like I'm going to have two non-working AC backups in a moment. I told ImgBurn 1x but there it goes doing Max anyway.

This post has been edited by penguinofdoom564: Nov 12 2007, 03:49 AM

[just3847]

I was having a thought earlier...can we maybe request a 6x or 7x speed? That might eliminate a problem or two. Hopefully with 6x (or 7 if needed) we can have the same quietness with the drive and the laser as the 5x and most likely a little bit faster loading with the few specific games that it has trouble loading quickly. Just a thought, let me know your opinions on it because it might be something to ask for from C4. Thanks.

This post has been edited by just3847: Nov 12 2007, 05:48 AM

[dangerouseddy]

QUOTE(just3847 @ Nov 12 2007, 05:46 AM)

I was having a thought earlier...can we maybe request a 6x or 7x speed? That might eliminate a problem or two. Hopefully with 6x (or 7 if needed) we can have the same quietness with the drive and the laser as the 5x and most likely a little bit faster loading with the few specific games that it has trouble loading quickly. Just a thought, let me know your opinions on it because it might be something to ask for from C4. Thanks.

i think the drive can only do 2,5,8,12x and no other speeds.

This post has been edited by dangerouseddy: Nov 12 2007, 05:56 AM

[just3847]

QUOTE(dangerouseddy @ Nov 11 2007, 11:54 PM)

i think the drive can only do 2,5,8,12x and no other speeds.

hmm oh ok..well unfortunately i think i might have to flash back to 12x ixtreme cause i can't stand some of these slowdowns and hesitations and delay in graphics! but oh god how I'll hate the noise! grr so difficult lol. but at least those crazy laser motor sounds should be gone with 12x too huh? Oh well.. can't have it all..12x is how it sounded stock anyway.

[Toddler]

QUOTE(penguinofdoom564 @ Nov 11 2007, 08:49 PM)

I was getting DRE on Assasin's Creed with the 5x.

You know, I heard the PAL version was posted in newsgroups and some reports of errors...?


Just a wild guess.

Looking forward to trying this game when it hits US shelves.

[just3847]

nah its just the combination of the game (backup or original) with the 5x or 8x firmware...or in his case with the DRE it is probably just his backup cause ours work fine but just slow at first. No problems with my PAL/Region Free backup besides that beginning loading but that's common for this game apparently with the slower-read firmwares..

now that i think about it, splinter cell DA and this both do that same thing where it takes forever to load up at first with a slower firmware, and they're BOTH Ubisoft games...hmm, must be the way they have their games load at first or something, ionoyo

by the way penguin..all my Best Buys sell Verbatims, dunno if you knew or if you live near any..

This post has been edited by just3847: Nov 12 2007, 06:25 AM

[penguinofdoom564]

Second burn is working...I dunno why since its the same disc and same burn speed. I'm just gonna keep using 12x though....I can't hear the 360 when I'm playing games and the load times are faster.

Thanks for the lead on Verb's just3847...when I run out of these Riteks I'll head to Best Buy.

[just3847]

QUOTE(penguinofdoom564 @ Nov 12 2007, 12:32 AM)

Second burn is working...I dunno why since its the same disc and same burn speed. I'm just gonna keep using 12x though....I can't hear the 360 when I'm playing games and the load times are faster.

Thanks for the lead on Verb's just3847...when I run out of these Riteks I'll head to Best Buy.

no problemo man...they have a 5 pack for 20 bucks and i think it goes up from there for Verbatims (price-wise and amount of discs), not bad though..

and i think i might be following your route...12x will work faster and if I remember, the laser isn't so loud and ridiculous, and yeah you get used to the dvd-drive spinning sound cause well, hey, like I said it's the way it comes from the factory. There's just no real replacing of the 12x speed when you have all these little hangups here and there, whether it's graphics every time I load a level in GoW or Halo on Live, or this AC thing every time you boot up, ha..I can't wait through that every time, but that's just me.

[ProphetOfPain]

QUOTE(just3847 @ Nov 12 2007, 02:10 AM)

By the way, I had the name Just4747 (I had posted earlier in this thread) and now my password wont get me in and when I do a Forgotten password request, I get no e-mail about it ever. Is there a reason my name was taken away from me or whatever? Can a mod please PM me or post telling me why it doesn't work anymore, I didn't break any rules or talk any shit on the name

Oh, I dunno.. probably because you was talking about playing backups of games that aren't even out yet.. ie pirated... just a guess..

[just3847]

yeah but it was most likely to explain something else about flashing or whatever. everyone else does it anyway and they don't get banned.