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[just4747]

QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 8 2007, 01:56 AM)

Chin up...the next Xbox is rumored to have a 300-disc carousel.

huh? whatya mean lol

[Toddler]

Just kidding...like next time you won't need to use a DVD wallet, just load them all in...nevermind.

[just4747]

lol no i got it...wish there was a better way to store them though..

[robbitop]

QUOTE(just4747 @ Nov 8 2007, 12:53 AM)

its always an issue with playing backups on this DL media...you just cant hear it as much over the sound of the drive spinning sometimes depending on what speed FW u have flashed...ive now flashed every speed, 2x, 5x, 8x, and 12x obviously and you can hear it with any of them as long as your playing a backup, because the laser needs to work harder to read the media i believe, right? that would make sense to me anyway.

It would make sense that the laser has to work a bit harder (using more volatage). I hope this wouldn't affect the lifetime of the drive too much. :-(
Anyway the BenQ drive seems to have better reading abbilities than the other drives. AFAIK the Samsung and Hitachi can only read a few very special types of DVD-Rs (like verabtim). The BenQ seems to be fine with a lot of DVD-R types. Toddler tested a scratched DVD-R and it still worked. That seems to confirm this theory.

QUOTE(Toddler @ Nov 8 2007, 01:02 AM)

I don't understand why someone who is begging for help thinks that being a dick is going to get him faster answers.
And what exactly is the hurry?  You won't even be getting a 360 for a few days!  Talk about nerve...seriously.
I said earlier that I'd test GoW when I have time.  Today I've been doing my full-time gig and when that ends, my wife goes to grad school and I take care of my young kids.  So doing your requested firmware testing is just going to have to wait.

Sorry. I didn't mean to be rude. So let's just calm down, ok?
By asking for a GoW-test I wasn't only refering to you, but to anybody who has the possibility to test it.
Maybe this was a misunderstanding. (since english isn't my native language) Sorry again.

QUOTE(minooch @ Nov 8 2007, 04:40 AM)

Well put!
Robbitop if you want to know the answer buy the appropriate hardware needed or have a little decency and don't act like you got something shoved up your A**.

Minooch

Like I mentioned before, it was a misunderstanding.

[sirreco]

QUOTE(just4747 @ Nov 8 2007, 07:03 AM)

somebody else with the 5x fw, load up splinter cell double agent(try original if you have it like me...otherwise try a backup)..it took a while and a lot of laser reading to finally load the full "press start" menu and every single loading screen after that too up till my game loaded took forever...jesus it wasnt this bad with any of the other games i tried...

That game is really beats the crap out of the drive to load up the first time.

I did some tests.

I what did was, I left the XBOX on the Daskbord with the drive tray open and with a Backup of SCDA on it, the moment I push the button to close the tray i started my stopwatch, and counted until the "Press Start" message showed up, here are the results:

12x: 1:16
8x: 1:26
5x: 1:35

I tested other games and on all of them I didnt notice much load time difference betwwen the 8x and the 5x, but on SCDA the 5x really lagged behind, even the 8 was quite slower compared to the 12x. Also, on 8x and 5x there were a moment duting the load process of SCDA that even the animation would freeze while the drive was busy, on 12x I didnt had that problem.


btw: I have 2 XBOX with Benq, I flashed one with 8x and another with 5x to run these tests. My SCDA back was done on a Intenso +R DL media.

Since that discrepancy was only notice on that particular game, and I hardly ever play it, I am leaving the drives with 5x for now.

@robbitop: I did the GoW testas well and both the 5x and 8x worked quite nice and fast, and of course the 5x being quieter.

Regards.

[just4747]

QUOTE(sirreco @ Nov 8 2007, 02:52 PM)

That game is really beats the crap out of the drive to load up the first time.

I did some tests.

I what did was, I left the XBOX on the Daskbord with the drive tray open and with a Backup of SCDA on it, the moment I push the button to close the tray i started my stopwatch, and counted until the "Press Start" message showed up, here are the results:

12x: 1:16
8x: 1:26
5x: 1:35

I tested other games and on all of them I didnt notice much load time difference betwwen the 8x and the 5x, but on SCDA the 5x really lagged behind, even the 8 was quite slower compared to the 12x. Also, on 8x and 5x there were a moment duting the load process of SCDA that even the animation would freeze while the drive was busy, on 12x I didnt had that problem.
btw: I have 2 XBOX with Benq, I flashed one with 8x and another with 5x to run these tests. My SCDA back was done on a Intenso +R DL media.

Since that discrepancy was only notice on that particular game, and I hardly ever play it, I am leaving the drives with 5x for now.

Regards.

yeah same thing with mine once again..
and during a few GoW Live matches, for like only 4 seconds at the very beginning of a match, the graphics would be very plain on my character and the background (everything basically) and the details took that 2-4 seconds to show up, but after that, it was fine.

[nco2k]

why are they using 5x and not 6x or 4x ?

i want to hex it this way:

0000BFB1 06 (6x)
0000BFBD 04 (4x)
0000BFC9 02 (2x)

anyone know if the benq drive supports 6x/4x at all ? thanks.

[pikah]

QUOTE(just4747 @ Nov 6 2007, 07:21 PM)

To reflash over an old flash, is it recommended that you do the erase command first like you do the first time you flash? Also, it's good that the quiet one is quieter but how does it perform? Is the read speed really a lot slower? Does loading in games become noticeably slower and longer? Thanks

I would recommend to erase the firmware always.  Just be sure that you have your original firmware to grab the key from. (The key is most important)

The XBOX360 will be slower while loading, you will notice this, but you should not have any problems while playing the game.