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[Toddler]

You're getting confused because spoofing has nothing to do with the key.

Spoofing means editing the firmware to tell the 360 "hey, I'm actually a xxx drive."  If you are replacing the drive with the same model, and the replacement has the same or newer firmware version, then you do not need to spoof.  If you are downgrading the firmware, or if you are replacing one model with another, then you do need to spoof.  Like replacing a BenQ with a Samsung...the Samsung firmware has to be edited so that the 360 thinks it's a BenQ.

Your firmware also has to contain your 360's unique key.  This is how the 360 authenticates games.  Without the valid key, your 360 is merely a DVD player.  So if you ever do anything to lose that key, you're screwed.

This happens when someone flashes their drive without first backing up the current firmware, or when someone goes through iDump/iFlash a couple of times with errors and manages to erase their orig.bin in the process.

If that still leaves you confused, then consider yourself lucky and don't ever try to do any of this on your own.

[pepelepe]

QUOTE(Toddler @ Oct 20 2007, 08:51 PM)

You're getting confused because spoofing has nothing to do with the key.

Spoofing means editing the firmware to tell the 360 "hey, I'm actually a xxx drive."  If you are replacing the drive with the same model, and the replacement has the same or newer firmware version, then you do not need to spoof.  If you are downgrading the firmware, or if you are replacing one model with another, then you do need to spoof.  Like replacing a BenQ with a Samsung...the Samsung firmware has to be edited so that the 360 thinks it's a BenQ.

Your firmware also has to contain your 360's unique key.  This is how the 360 authenticates games.  Without the valid key, your 360 is merely a DVD player.  So if you ever do anything to lose that key, you're screwed.

This happens when someone flashes their drive without first backing up the current firmware, or when someone goes through iDump/iFlash a couple of times with errors and manages to erase their orig.bin in the process.

If that still leaves you confused, then consider yourself lucky and don't ever try to do any of this on your own.

Thanks for the info dude... but that also means im correct.. if you lose the key to your original samsung ms28 you can buy a new drive and use it on your motherboard right?

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Your firmware also has to contain your 360's unique key.  This is how the 360 authenticates games.  Without the valid key, your 360 is merely a DVD player.  So if you ever do anything to lose that key, you're screwed.

Well that drive will be bricked, but couldn't you just get a new drive? Like in the authors case get a new ms28

Thanks again!

[Carlitosbaby]

QUOTE(pepelepe @ Oct 20 2007, 05:22 PM)

Thanks for the info dude... but that also means im correct.. if you lose the key to your original samsung ms28 you can buy a new drive and use it on your motherboard right?
Well that drive will be bricked, but couldn't you just get a new drive? Like in the authors case get a new ms28

Thanks again!

You arent listening at all why are you bothering to make a post of you know it all. (according to yourself) you can replace any bad drive with any other drive as long as you have your ORIGINAL KEY. no original key you have a working dvd player. here is a good link for you http://www.albinobla...m/flash/posting

[pepelepe]

QUOTE(Carlitosbaby @ Oct 20 2007, 11:30 PM)

You arent listening at all why are you bothering to make a post of you know it all. (according to yourself) you can replace any bad drive with any other drive as long as you have your ORIGINAL KEY. no original key you have a working dvd player. here is a good link for you http://www.albinobla...m/flash/posting

wth  

I wasn't aware my post came out like that.. like I know "evrything"... the reason why im asking all these questions is because i DONT know the answer if you can replace a drive or not.

I'm just confused... lets say your ms28 gets bricked.. why cant you just get another ms28 and use it in your 360?

I'm not sure what you're trying to say either.. you forgot to use punctuation in some areas... are you quoting me or did you reply to my questions?

Let's say you loose the key for an ms28 drive on your 360, i assume that drive is bricked... why cant i just get another drive (ms28) and use it?

Sorry I worded my recent post wrong... that wasn't my intention at all  

[cypher21]

QUOTE(pepelepe @ Oct 20 2007, 11:48 PM)

wth  

I wasn't aware my post came out like that.. like I know "evrything"... the reason why im asking all these questions is because i DONT know the answer if you can replace a drive or not.

I'm just confused... lets say your ms28 gets bricked.. why cant you just get another ms28 and use it in your 360?

I'm not sure what you're trying to say either.. you forgot to use punctuation in some areas... are you quoting me or did you reply to my questions?

Let's say you loose the key for an ms28 drive on your 360, i assume that drive is bricked... why cant i just get another drive (ms28) and use it?

Sorry I worded my recent post wrong... that wasn't my intention at all  

Dude, read some stickies!

If your drive is bricked, you can replace it with ANY other drive that runs hacked firmware!

BUT (and this is the MOST important thing!)

You NEED to HAVE the original dvd-key that was stored on your drive that came with the xbox!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that key links the drive to the xbox

If you do not have that key, then you turned your xbox in an expensive home-dvdplayer!

an MS28 is detected as an ms28 but the key is the missing link. let's say you want to replace it with a hitachi 59dj, you need to spoof that hitachi as an MS28 (otherwise E65 error) AND you need to put the right dvd-key in the firmware (otherwise you cannot play games)

hopefully this makes all things clear

[pepelepe]

QUOTE(cypher21 @ Oct 21 2007, 02:33 AM)

Dude, read some stickies!

If your drive is bricked, you can replace it with ANY other drive that runs hacked firmware!

BUT (and this is the MOST important thing!)

You NEED to HAVE the original dvd-key that was stored on your drive that came with the xbox!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that key links the drive to the xbox

If you do not have that key, then you turned your xbox in an expensive home-dvdplayer!

an MS28 is detected as an ms28 but the key is the missing link. let's say you want to replace it with a hitachi 59dj, you need to spoof that hitachi as an MS28 (otherwise E65 error) AND you need to put the right dvd-key in the firmware (otherwise you cannot play games)

hopefully this makes all things clear

Yes I understand perfectly now thanks to your reply cypher21!

I will go read up on some threads ive seen in this forum, so i can remove my noob status  

Thanks    

[Toddler]

QUOTE(pepelepe @ Oct 20 2007, 07:44 PM)

Yes I understand perfectly now thanks to your reply cypher21!

Not to take anything away from cypher21, but he didn't tell you anything I or others had already said several times.  Pepelepe, you are one of the densest douchebags I've ever seen on these boards.

Sorry...I just couldn't help myself.

[cypher21]

QUOTE(Toddler @ Oct 21 2007, 04:33 AM)

Not to take anything away from cypher21, but he didn't tell you anything I or others had already said several times.  Pepelepe, you are one of the densest douchebags I've ever seen on these boards.

Sorry...I just couldn't help myself.

that's what i said already, all info was in stickies or other topics already