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[caster420]

QUOTE(Toddler @ Sep 21 2007, 03:09 PM)

Or maybe this BenQ spoofing is not fully understood by many people, both of us included.  Over at xboxhacker there has been some question over the correct drive ID string (not the drive key) after manually editing an incorrect ID actually works.  That's one of the concerns with going online with a Samsung-to-BenQ spoof.  Have you taken yours online?

Yes, when mine was functioning, it was spoofed as my ms28 (by me, not that package or web site) and it was fine.  The version string check is not done by live but by the kernel.  If it is not correct in any drive, not just the BenQ, you will get E66.  If you have a samsung, go change your version strings to something other than what they are currently (random bytes), flash it to your drive, and let me know if it works (as you stated it will).  I bet you will get E66 and the 360 will not boot.

Caster.

[Toddler]

Gigabyte's posted version string (from this thread):

 1F0000005042445320202020564144363033382D3634393330432020202020202020202000000000
0000000000000000000000000000160003A0

The version string in idog's Automatic BenQ-to-Samsung Generator:

 1F0000005042445320202020564144363033382D3634393330432020202020202020202000000000
000000000000000000000000000000000000

I initially did a manual edit of the iXtreme 1.2C "quiet" FW using Gigabyte's info, and it worked for me just fine.  After idog released his tool, I uploaded my firmware to compare the results and noticed the difference.  I posted about it in this thread, and idog answered in the next post.  Based on his response, I decided to flash idog's version to my Samsung, and that also worked as I reported in the next post.

The real irony is you've been active in both threads I've referenced.

This post has been edited by Toddler: Sep 22 2007, 03:47 AM

[caster420]

The irony is, this is not a new issue.  It has been around for a long time.

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Ok, the top firmware is a spoofed Hitachi v40 Samsung iXtreme firmware created with samtool.  The bottom firmware is a spoofed Hitachi v40 Samsung iXtreme firmware created with 360 Firmware Toolbox v3.0.  One is c4e's way and one is Maximus' way.  How many people are on live right now who are using either? Which is the correct one?

Caster.

[Toddler]

QUOTE(caster420 @ Sep 21 2007, 08:36 PM)

I bet you will get E66 and the 360 will not boot.

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[caster420]

QUOTE(Toddler @ Sep 22 2007, 02:49 AM)

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What i meant was change both of your version strings to random bytes - you will get e66...

According to some, the first string is not called or reported.  Maximus leaves the top string and is how 360fwtb detects spoofed firmware (possible detection???).  C4eva changes both strings and is how samtool does as well.  Samtool detects spoofed firmware based off of the structure of the key range.  The second string is reported.  How many characters are reported, i dont know.  I made samtool based off of C4eva's method, as it seemed the most correct to me.

Trust me, you are not showing me anything new.  I did a lot of testing when i wrote samtool....

Do some searching, both on here and on xboxhacker.  You will find threads that are over a year old discussing this exact situation.  It was dismissed and has never been an issue.

Caster.

This post has been edited by caster420: Sep 22 2007, 06:15 AM

[Toddler]

QUOTE(caster420 @ Sep 22 2007, 01:55 AM)

Trust me, you are not showing me anything new.

Glad I could jog your memory, then.  Given that even Maximus and c4e can't agree on what's "correct" then, there's no reason for you to advise people with a BenQ on the shelf that there's "no need to wait for firmware" before going online.  It's safer to use your original drive, period, and anybody with a BenQ should be patient and wait a few days for c4e's iXtreme.

[caster420]

QUOTE(Toddler @ Sep 22 2007, 03:24 AM)

Glad I could jog your memory, then.  Given that even Maximus and c4e can't agree on what's "correct" then, there's no reason for you to advise people with a BenQ on the shelf that there's "no need to wait for firmware" before going online.  It's safer to use your original drive, period, and anybody with a BenQ should be patient and wait a few days for c4e's iXtreme.

Its safer not to use any modified firmware period and stick with your original.  Whats your point?  You dont want to take a risk and want to be 100% safe, then this game isnt for you. Do you remember all those people who got banned not for spoofing drives but for using modified firmwares that dont give the correct response?  Do i need to jog your memory for that? Simply because you wait on iXtreme firmware for it doesnt mean you wont be banned in a week, month, or a few months.  Can you tell people with 100% certainty that they're not going to be banned if they wait for BenQ iXtreme firmware?  Maybe Samsung iXtreme firwmare is more secure and they'd be better off spoofing and having defunt version strings.  

Do you know the answer to that?  Have you ever advised someone to spoof with 360 Firmware Toolbox?  If so, shame on you.  Do you know how many people use that app everyday to spoof drives?  You should get on Maximus for that...

My point was, this is not a new issue, it is not an issue currently and you've not discovered something that is groundbreaking.  Go start telling all those people that have replacement samsungs that they need to go back to their original Hitachi's now because there is iXtreme firmware for it.  

I simply stated, and will state again, for those who are going to spoof regardless of the release of iXtreme firmware for the BenQ, there is no point in waiting for the firmware.  I've said that was my point multiple times but it seems to go right over your head Toddler.

Caster.

This post has been edited by caster420: Sep 22 2007, 03:41 PM

[Toddler]

QUOTE(caster420 @ Sep 22 2007, 11:05 AM)

I simply stated, and will state again, for those who are going to spoof regardless of the release of iXtreme firmware for the BenQ, there is no point in waiting for the firmware.

Obviously, anyone who decides not to use the BenQ drive has no need to wait for BenQ firmware.  What a stupid comment to even make.

All I said was that I personally won't go online until there's stealth firmware for BenQ and I can use my original drive.  Your response implied that there's no value in waiting, when the fact is that no one knows for sure what additional vulnerabilities might be associated with spoofing, and it would be best to wait for BenQ iXtreme before going online.  I know you agree with that, which makes your continued posturing even more bizarre.

I'll let you have the last pointless word.

[AbsoluteZeroInc]

Hi, sorry to interrupt but I need some help.

I had a problem with dosflash not showing my sata drives on one of my machines with an asus k8v deluxe motherboard. I wasn't sure how to fix this so I tried another computer.And dosflash in dos mode showed my SATA but when i follow the instructions it will not show me the drive. it shows something is connected but doesn't say VAD6038-... it says something like MTK vendor not found. cannot read flash. I'm not sure what it says since I'm not home (internet company kicked me yesterday for bandwidth issues) but it's something along those lines, man it's been hard trying to do this without internet right beside me. Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

Thank YOU,
AZ

[AbsoluteZeroInc]

Wow fixed the problem on the second computer, turns out it was the version of dosflash I was using.

Thanks, hope that helps someone.
AZ

[Iriez]

I just wanted to update this thread for anyone who is still watching it.

c4e has been hard at work for the benq version of ixtreme. However, he will not be releasing it until after the fall update. So I would expect a release around late october.

After the firmware is completed, he will devote his resources to figuring out a 100% software flashing solution for the drive, instead of cutting the traces to get a read on it.

[bojangles1988]

do you have an idea why he is going to wait to release after the fall update? is this because it wont be done until then or because of possible ban issues