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Klutsh

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« Reply #60 on: July 20, 2007, 04:10:00 PM »

QUOTE(jaynigs @ Jul 20 2007, 11:37 PM) *

Great, thanks for this release, what will m$ try next?

I have an idea for a future version of this firmware, is it possible for NON Stealthed games to boot if not connected to live? or perhaps a disc to override the non booting of non stealthed games.

I have a few games that are non stealthed, which i know they are not stealthed but i only want  to play them offline, i own the originals to these games, so if i really want to use them online i will use the originals, but dont really want to burn them again.

Im sure uk law states i am allowed to legally have a backup, provided i own the original disc, thus m$ will have no legal grounds to ban me from live if i do not use them online, in fact they would be in breach of my rights ( unless my rights have changed in this area without me knowing about it )


Not getting into a BIG debate, Yes you have the Right to Back-up what you own. (UK based opinion.)
Yes, MS CAN ban you for using said back-up, be it online or not, It's againt the EULA that ships with the 360.

End of Moral/Right's/Legality discussion. (MS Have the $$$ to pay the Lawyers, we don't, MS Win)

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« Reply #61 on: July 20, 2007, 04:15:00 PM »

QUOTE(Ranger72 @ Jul 20 2007, 09:35 PM) View Post

This comes with slow and normal speed. I choose slow myself.


Ah thats great. I will flash this to this firmware tomorrow.
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jaynigs

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« Reply #62 on: July 20, 2007, 04:20:00 PM »

QUOTE(Klutsh @ Jul 20 2007, 11:46 PM) *

Not getting into a BIG debate, Yes you have the Right to Back-up what you own. (UK based opinion.)
Yes, MS CAN ban you for using said back-up, be it online or not, It's againt the EULA that ships with the 360.

End of Moral/Right's/Legality discussion. (MS Have the $$$ to pay the Lawyers, we don't, MS Win)


Thanks for your reply,however i dont recall ever agreeing to this EULA offline ( if at all ), or signing anything pertaining to the EULA, furthermore, my statutory rights are never affected by additional conditions. Example being a shop saying no refunds even if the goods are damaged, even if i signed this, i can take them to court and sue them for breach of the sale of goods act.

But yeah, im don't want a huge debate about it either (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

QUOTE(ranger72 @ Jul 20 2007, 11:51 PM) *

This comes with slow and normal speed. I choose slow myself.


I see this slow read as a possible angle for detection, i would stick with normal read speeds if i were you

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signum

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« Reply #63 on: July 20, 2007, 05:09:00 PM »

I couldn't resist it and flashed my drive with the 1.2RevC (Quiet) and its working fine!

I did think that slow read could be a detection but since its quite an unreliable detection anyway to ban people from since many discs do have trouble reading etc. But who knows..only MS.
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« Reply #64 on: July 20, 2007, 05:11:00 PM »

QUOTE(jaynigs @ Jul 20 2007, 11:37 PM) View Post

Great, thanks for this release, what will m$ try next?

I have an idea for a future version of this firmware, is it possible for NON Stealthed games to boot if not connected to live? or perhaps a disc to override the non booting of non stealthed games. ( could even use the enable 800 disc as a boolean to switch off the non booting code )



But what if the console logs non-stealthed games while offline as has been suggested?

It's easier just to make proper back ups of your games, there is no excuse for non-stealthed games IMO.

QUOTE(signum @ Jul 21 2007, 12:45 AM) View Post

I couldn't resist it and flashed my drive with the 1.2RevC (Quiet) and its working fine!

I did think that slow read could be a detection but since its quite an unreliable detection anyway to ban people from since many discs do have trouble reading etc. But who knows..only MS.


Indeed, I'd seriously doubt any sort of detection by drive read speed. If C4E has determined it to be safe enough, then I'll agree with him!
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« Reply #65 on: July 20, 2007, 05:54:00 PM »

i suppose it's not a slow-read version (4x)? dry.gif
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« Reply #66 on: July 20, 2007, 05:23:00 PM »

QUOTE(fish_ @ Jul 21 2007, 12:54 AM) View Post

i suppose it's not a slow-read version (4x)? dry.gif


It Does. The package contains both Fast and Quiet  biggrin.gif
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II BJ II

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« Reply #67 on: July 20, 2007, 05:41:00 PM »

so if the reason behind banning was un-properly patched games then tell me this,

Why didn't I get banned when I was booting un-patched games for months (call of duty 2 no stealth patches what so ever) continued to boot this game on a daily basis even after the bans. Ok then iXtreme 1.2 came out I put that on my ms28 and the un-stealth cod2 wouldnt boot anymore???? Im still not banned and never have been...

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« Reply #68 on: July 20, 2007, 05:45:00 PM »

QUOTE(youdontknow @ Jul 20 2007, 12:35 PM) *

^^^ i dont think it matters if you try it offline, as soon as you get online it will send the log to microsoft anyways.

Bassie Von Adriaan- you should update your firmware, because this update is IMPORTANT!! this update doesnt let you boot unstealth games, it stops the logs from being sent to microsoft when trying an unstealth game. the earlier firmware wouldnt boot the unstealth games but it would still send the log to microsoft. so if you tried to boot an unstealth game most likely it logged it and sent to microsoft. so to be sure none of this happens UPDATE FIRMWARE!!


are you sure you need to update? im still running oldskool fw, i think its 1.2 or 3 cant really rememnber. but anyways, i used my free month gold last year and i flashed to one of the above fw back way before the 1st spring update. i dont even bother (backups) if they dont have stealth and i bought a 3 month live card 3 weeks ago and im still ok. got a hitachi drive.

i would say updating the fw now would show up on m$ checks, my situation shows this

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« Reply #69 on: July 20, 2007, 05:57:00 PM »

QUOTE(mayonnaise @ Jul 20 2007, 10:29 PM) View Post

Not I am not. It wasnt that hard for me to read a guide and flash my drive. All knowledge I have of computers/electronic devices was learned through guides or self research. Like I said, if someone wont take the time to read a guide, have someone show them, just plain dont get it, or are afraid of taking the risk; they shouldnt be taking the risk of using a modded system (on XBL no less).
P.S. I would not let someone pay me to mod their system. I have done a few for friends. I make them pay me by paying attention to me and listening well when I first modded their system so they can do it themselves afterwards. wink.gif


 Ok, I don't want you to misinterpret what I was initially saying. From everything you've said, I totally understand your viewpoint. Most of the time, that's how I get "paid" for my services (I'd rather people be able to duplicate what I do, than be the only one when it comes to computers), however, I have several frinds that

1) Have a 360 but do not have a computer - yes, there are many people like this out there. Tech saavy is a moot point in this case, as telling them to go spend $300+ when to them the only purpose *would* be to re-flash. They have no interest in using a computer, but don't want to spend another $60 if their discs are damaged (one of my friends has to keep backups because his drive puts the ring around the disc).

2) No matter how thouroughly you SHOW them how to do something, they still can't grasp the concept. I've pointed them to tutorials, and even shown them step by step how to do it, but they CANNOT do it themselves.

3) Don't want to buy a SATA controller when the only thing they'd use it for is to flash their 360. I tell these people that they're just being cheap, or trying to cover for not wanting to learn.

 Either way, if there's one thing I've learned in life, it's that no matter how easy something is to you, there's at least a million people who could never do that (not to say they couldn't do things you could never do, either). I'm a DJ, and to me, spinning records seems easy. I can blend, chop, flange, etc. on CD/Vinyl/MP3, and to me, it's a minor excersize. It took me forever to realise that it's easy to me because I've been familiar with turntables and mixers for quite a while, and it's just another craft.

 In a perfect world, everyone would be able to keep up with things and do them just as you and I and the many knowledgable people here at x-s, but sadly that's just not the case. I would think that over 90% of the people who have a login here are definately capable of it, however (they may be intimidated by a task they've never done). I was mostly reffering to those outside of x-s, and a small handful of newbies here who don't seem interested in learning "how", when they can just learn "what" and find someone who's already capable of "how". They're usually reffered to as consumers (they demand the market; we don't create it per-se).
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« Reply #70 on: July 20, 2007, 06:31:00 PM »

this is getting very much off topic again, if you want to debate the right of people who have their console flash by others to a stable product, go in X360 general, but not here.

Warning: NO ONE SHOULD GIVE THEMSELVES THE RIGHT TO EXPECT anything of the hackers, who deliver expiremental code to them for free. Not even some as I have seen that think that explanation are owed to them. It is always given as is, and at you own risk (period). That said hackers often provide info, support... which we can only say thanks for.

Now some try to justify expectations, because  people charge $$ for installing a free code for someone else. What is wrong with this picture???
  • Either people charging should tell their customer about the risk, and the fact that they can expect nothing in term of longevity in the free code they receive. In this case nothing is to be expected and no one should have an issue
  • If that is not done, then do not pass the expectation created by the person charging $$$ to the hacker that has provided you the code for free. YOU HAVE no right to do so.  Tell your customer the truth
  • and if in the end it is just the user not having the aptitude to do it, well that is reality. Many things, I do not have the abilities for, and I live with the results. In some case it just means I cant participate, in other I have to accept a higher risk
In no way is that a justification to demand anything, no one is forced to play this game.
I am not pointing anyone, just saying that the fact some people charge $$ does not change the reality that no expectation is to be had.

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Now this thread goes back to the technical discussion/support of Ixtreme 1.2C, and other debate can be brought to  X360 general if you want to discuss them.

No more warning on this, it is to be taken as is.

-soso

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« Reply #71 on: July 20, 2007, 08:15:00 PM »

QUOTE(XLNC @ Jul 20 2007, 09:57 PM) *

Before flashing my drive for the first time I put in a copy of PGR3 (no xbox live connection) and it took ages to boot and eventually did and ran the DVD video saying put this game into an xbox 360 so I'm assuming I should be fine since the 360 thinks that it ran a DVD video or am I banned, any way to avoid getting banned?

If the logs are stored on flash then it's probably all over, but if it's harddrive then I'm all for formatting my drive.


I went on live twice earlier and it seems like I'm alright for now. I came on went on after a couple of hours, but I won't know at least until a few days pass.

I wonder if they ban on weekends.
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« Reply #72 on: July 20, 2007, 08:49:00 PM »

C4E, thanks man. It surely is a game of cat and mouse!

I'm sure you're having a bigger rush playing this 'game' than us playing Halo2/GoW!!

Anyway, does the last Hitachi update already have this feature in it or should be expect a Hitachi release with this feature soon? I'm asking because you guys have still kept it 1.2. BTW, since this f/w release prevents a known BAN check, I think it warrants a version bump. But then again. its your code, so your rules!

Cheers folks.

To folks complaining, SHUT UP. If you don't like the firmware I'm sure C4E would gladly return any money you paid him. While free != bug ridden (think Linux), this is experimental and cutting edge. Against a $$$ adversary. So it's a HUGE victory that we're even till here. The beer glass is half full, NOT half empty. Have the balls.
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« Reply #73 on: July 20, 2007, 09:49:00 PM »

If M$ is going to start banning again, I'd say they would do it at or near Halo 3 launch.  This would have the most dramatic impact.  They did it with the beta, and I only got to play 1 day before my first box was banned.  Fucking Microsoft...
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« Reply #74 on: July 20, 2007, 10:30:00 PM »

QUOTE(II BJ II @ Jul 20 2007, 08:17 PM) View Post

so if the reason behind banning was un-properly patched games then tell me this,

Why didn't I get banned when I was booting un-patched games for months (call of duty 2 no stealth patches what so ever) continued to boot this game on a daily basis even after the bans. Ok then iXtreme 1.2 came out I put that on my ms28 and the un-stealth cod2 wouldnt boot anymore???? Im still not banned and never have been...



Because the game may have been stealthed but not 100%.. C4E put in many checks that he knows MS was not using but could be used in the future.



QUOTE(xnoelahg @ Jul 20 2007, 08:33 PM) View Post

1) Have a 360 but do not have a computer - yes, there are many people like this out there. Tech saavy is a moot point in this case, as telling them to go spend $300+ when to them the only purpose *would* be to re-flash. They have no interest in using a computer, but don't want to spend another $60 if their discs are damaged (one of my friends has to keep backups because his drive puts the ring around the disc).


How is he making backups if he doesn't have a computer!!??  uhh.gif


QUOTE(bikermike69uk @ Jul 20 2007, 08:21 PM) View Post

are you sure you need to update? im still running oldskool fw, i think its 1.2 or 3 cant really rememnber. but anyways, i used my free month gold last year and i flashed to one of the above fw back way before the 1st spring update. i dont even bother (backups) if they dont have stealth and i bought a 3 month live card 3 weeks ago and im still ok. got a hitachi drive.

i would say updating the fw now would show up on m$ checks, my situation shows this


MS has no way of detecting fimeware changes..l your safest bet is to upgrade....  old Hitachi drives are definately NOT safe to use on live.. you are asking to be banned.
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