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[TIME2PLAYDAGAME]

QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ May 22 2007, 03:00 AM)

Just as an FYI, the theory of flashing before using Xbox Live is a complete myth. I flash an OOTB Core 360 (literally opened it myself to do the job), which has now been reported as banned.

Don't think you're safe in assuming this will prevent you from being banned. The best advice I've seen is for people to pick up a new core 360 for playing on Xbox Live and leave another 360 solely for backups. Remember you can swap the HDD from one to the other, keeping your content with you as you travel.

Martin

Not to question you err anything, but aren't there other things to take into consideration? Like, was it a TS drive with "true stealth" fw? Was it flashed with the power cable of the X360? Was every single game played on it, stealth patched properly? Etc etc.

For those who weren't banned so far, like 2 of my friends who hardly ever play & could care less about multiplayer...Just maybe they played their cards right & didnt even realize it.

I dont think flashing out the box is the answer to our prayers, but its certainly more comforting...Especially with the iXtreme coming out.

[BEVEL]

QUOTE(stezo2k @ May 22 2007, 08:58 AM)

Well, I cant seem to sign into live on my brothers unmodded 360 with my HDD

No idea why...

check if the console is also banned, do the network test to check this
And does your brother also have a live account on his box ?
If so.. does that account still work?

Oh btw.
As c4e stated... you might also be banned if you use downloaded save-games etc
Stuff thats not supposed to be on your console/HD

This post has been edited by BEVEL: May 22 2007, 09:25 AM

[cRACKmONKEY421]

does this mean I can find a banned 360 for real cheap?

maybe I'll finally get one.

Remember the days when you just don't use backups on xbox live?  DVD Firmware modchips don't seem so silly anymore.

I wonder if XBL would ban my original xbox if I use hacked firmware + backups on live.. not that it matters.

Good luck and thanks.

[Trunks360]

Just from a week i was going to flash my drive but When i heard about the bans  i said thanks god that my pc didnt detect my 360 drive. but it turn out that they logged that my drive wasn't connected to the motherboard
and iam going to get banned even before touching the firmware i hope that there is a way to make the 360 shut up about this   dam M$ they are really destroying the live name

Way to go C4E you are the king

[Trune]

I booted my console up last night without the DVD plugged in... is it normal that it takes ages to go dashboard without it plugged in?

I only done it like that to see if i was banned from live, which im not.

[pinkerton]

I think M$ started banning because they have caught wind of a real security exploit and that a modchip is on its way. Time to hack the 360 to shreds, a new 360 version of XBMC that plays MKV files ETC and decent emulators for Xbox1, PS1, PS2, DC, Saturn ETC. Time to unleash the 360's true potential.

This post has been edited by pinkerton: May 22 2007, 09:57 AM

[d-range]

It will be very interesting to see if my box will get banned too. It originally had an ms-28 drive which was first flashed with Xtreme 3.3 (reports as ms25) before the fall update. When the 5.x fw was released I tried flashing that, almost bricked the drive, replaced it with a flashed Hitachi drive until the ms28 was fixed and now it has the ms28 back in it with Xtreme 5.3, which reports as ms28. I never went online with it from 2 months before the fall update onwards, I did not apply the fall *or* the spring update, never played a backup online (never logged into live with one in the drive), but I *did* flash it with the DVD powered by the 360, and I *did* download XBLA games with the Xtreme 3.3 fw flashed to it and maybe even with the flashed Hitachi (don't remember).

So atm I have a 360 that might have some red flags logged in flash, but which is not banned yet, still on kernel version 2585 and never had a backup in the drive while on XBL. For now I will not connect it to XBL until the new fw is out, but I'm really curious if MS can ban this one as well...

[idog]

QUOTE(blue_calx @ May 22 2007, 06:34 AM)

Is there a guide on how to make a ODD adapter similar to the Xecuter connectivity kit?

I don't want to buy that whole kit if all i need is to get the xbox360 drive adapted to a molex connection.

Note: I tried searching around and couldn't find one.

Just use a banned console for your power solution. I.e. take the drive out of the new console. Plug the power of a banned console into the drive and connect your sata as usual to the pc. When flashing is done, put the drive back in the new console and done.

No need for molex or adapters..

[JORT]

Interesting read, but I'm not sold yet. Anybody else a little bit skeptical after "disc-jitter" fix. Not that it is any body's fault, but I doubt we see a lot of people dive into this new fw. Why don't we have M$ rats, o wait nvm we do.

[xboxer360]

still not so sure how important the drive power thing is. I mean anything could cause the console to boot up once without data replies from the DVD drive. I don't think that is enough to justify a banning. E64's only come when the power cable is unplugged from the dvd drive. When the white power cable is left in and the sata cable swapped out with the one leading to computer there is no E64, it simply boots up to dashboard. I seriously doubt a one time bootup in this state could lead to a banning unless combined with other factors.

[xboxer360]

hmm i think the checks implemented at the moment have something to do with kreon rips vs ms28 rips. I have flashed close to 100 drives and most people have been banned. Of those games earlier on I ripped them using my ms28 on my xbox and the rest with the kreon drive. One of my mates who only plays a few select games which happen to be ripped from the ms28 happens to not be banned. garyopa himself said that kreon rips aren't safe so people that are not banned are you using ms28/ms25 rips only or kreon ones also?

[pinkerton]

Although a new firmware is interesting, the only full proof way to avoid a ban is to leave your 360 well alone and only play originals, which is what I plan to do   (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

This post has been edited by pinkerton: May 22 2007, 10:44 AM

[NumarkTTX1]

too bad for me.. i was hoping the theory of the "flashing out the box to stealth firmware" was going to keep my safe. i got my ass home tonight and found my ms28 BANNED! too bad. it was fun while it lasted...

[bonsc2]

Ive ever played on live with my originals or backups the only time i ever used live was to download the odd demo and at them time update my 36 so whats the chances of a ban.What happens when you need the new updates to play the latest games.

[TIME2PLAYDAGAME]

QUOTE(NumarkTTX1 @ May 22 2007, 04:46 AM)

too bad for me.. i was hoping the theory of the "flashing out the box to stealth firmware" was going to keep my safe. i got my ass home tonight and found my ms28 BANNED! too bad. it was fun while it lasted...

IMO flashing out of the box before even making a live acct. is still the best idea. Its just that most of us didn't take certain [/b]other precautions. While others may have taken them... i would think most who aren't banned just got lucky with their gaming habbits, not even aware of what was explained by C4E tonight.