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[telo{+}]

QUOTE(PacinoAllstars @ May 31 2007, 11:18 PM)

I believe "the turn on av cable while no sata is connected will cause ban" is just a myth. You can also change the myth into "What if I power on my xbox while the sata cable from the xbox drive is connected with my pc" this will cause a ban because the drive will know its connected with a pc which means modded.

Myself flashed my ixtreme on the normal way and if I might get banned because of the so called myth Im happy to let you people know I was wrong.

I suggest some more reading and less typing.

The southbridge checks at boot up for the AV cable if its not there the CPU does NOT power up. No CPU - No ban checking.

Also, do you realize you are suggesting that its the same thing as the iX firmware on the drive is keeping track of when its hooked to a pc and then reporting that to the host (cpu) ?

If you boot with no AV cable there is no chance for a ban, its safe..... except for that 5 min limit.

More Read - Less Type esp when YOU are telling people whats a myth and whats not.

[sosotiit]

QUOTE(cartervt2k @ May 31 2007, 06:59 PM)

Will Schtrom or XBC stealth check detect bad Hitachi SS extracts or will only the iXtreme firmware tell you what's good and what isn't?

only the fact it does not start in iXtreme, but again one should know how he has made his backup!!!

Further discussion on media stealth in Media Stealth: What is needed and How To Verify, (DMI, PFI, Video Partition, Samsung SS)

-soso

[hardin69]

i was banned with using ixtreme and no dash update!!

console had not been on live since a few days before dash update and was running 5.3

update to ixtreme and then tried to connect to live and got told i was banned. so what ever it is banning folks aint in the dash update it's sumin else it would seem but as to what i have no idea

only thing i did do thou was use the xbox to power the drive everytime i flashed. apart from ixtreme where i left the video lead out and powered it that way as read this dont kick the cpu in or sumin.

xbox is now back to 5.3 and old dash still just thought would let folks know

[TIME2PLAYDAGAME]

QUOTE(hardin69 @ May 31 2007, 09:03 PM)

i was banned with using ixtreme and no dash update!!

console had not been on live since a few days before dash update and was running 5.3

update to ixtreme and then tried to connect to live and got told i was banned. so what ever it is banning folks aint in the dash update it's sumin else it would seem but as to what i have no idea

only thing i did do thou was use the xbox to power the drive everytime i flashed. apart from ixtreme where i left the video lead out and powered it that way as read this dont kick the cpu in or sumin.

xbox is now back to 5.3 and old dash still just thought would let folks know

uMm because u were already flagged for a ban. iXtreme had nothing to do with it...it was a bomb waiting to be set off man. Sorry

[polakis]

So if we put ixtreme 1.0 on a samsung drive that has never been into live we will be safe and ok using backups on Live? Should i do it?

[hardin69]

in theory yes, but only time will tell

[wcrov]

hitachi, hitachi, hitachi...

[Durrik]

QUOTE(telo{+} @ Jun 1 2007, 12:53 AM)

I suggest some more reading and less typing.

The southbridge checks at boot up for the AV cable if its not there the CPU does NOT power up. No CPU - No ban checking.

Also, do you realize you are suggesting that its the same thing as the iX firmware on the drive is keeping track of when its hooked to a pc and then reporting that to the host (cpu) ?

If you boot with no AV cable there is no chance for a ban, its safe..... except for that 5 min limit.

More Read - Less Type esp when YOU are telling people whats a myth and whats not.

I think you should do more reading too. This was proven to not be true by moderators in the #fw on IRC. I believe it might have also been proven false by c4eva. So you need to take your own advice buddy.

[ghettoc401]

QUOTE(Durrik @ Jun 5 2007, 09:04 AM)

I think you should do more reading too. This was proven to not be true by moderators in the #fw on IRC. I believe it might have also been proven false by c4eva. So you need to take your own advice buddy.

So the 5 minute flash w/ no a/v cable was proven not to be safe? If so how come people believe in it?  

*Im not trying to argue, im trying to understand.

[sosotiit]

QUOTE(Durrik @ Jun 5 2007, 10:04 AM)

I think you should do more reading too. This was proven to not be true by moderators in the #fw on IRC. I believe it might have also been proven false by c4eva. So you need to take your own advice buddy.

What is not true in what he is saying?

-that it can be tracked when the cable is out?
-that E64 error when using the cable can result in a ban?

because the last I heard is that there was no proof that it was (or that it was not) tracked by MS. Nor that they could say if that would be in the future, so nothing wrong by doing it without the cable and not having the E64 logged. It was just not sure it was helping, but certainly not that it was hurting.

do you have more pricise info?

[sosotiit]

QUOTE(cypher21 @ Jun 5 2007, 02:19 PM)

That method is not proven, however it is proven that when there;s no AV cable attached, the xbox doesn't boot all the way. So there's a theory the AV cablecheck is performed before the rest of the checks (no sata attached) and IF they log something, they probably log the "not connected AV cable" error instead of the not connected SATA cable error

and since the AV cable is an external cable, their would be no conclusion to be drawn by MS by not having it connected.  So it does not seem to hurt not to have it connected,
good  

-soso

[Zheez]

QUOTE(snowysplosh @ Jun 9 2007, 05:46 PM)

The hitachi stopped going online when i attempted to play my back up Call of Duty 3 call it stupid but straight away i swapped boxes over and put the same backup of Call of Duty 3 in the box signed in straight away and like i say is still going strong on live!! for how long i have no idea..
Basically what iam tryin to point out is the ban sweep seems to have nothing to do with stealth backups as my boxes have proved.

But the current Hitachi firmwares don't have stealth media support, only the Samsung firmwares do, so basically a Hitachi drive playing a backup may as well just not have any PFI/DMI sectors as it won't read them anyway.

[xaudiox]

My Hitachi 47 still going strong , still using C4E jitter fix firmware.

[xnoelahg]

I'm curious:
Does anybody know what all kernels have the offline PFI checks? Reason I ask, is I have a 4552 kernel, but I may decide to update it one day and take it online.

[flash360]

I unintentionaly checked out the av cable theory the other day when updating to 1.2. I was checking my xbox before puting it back together and i forgot to put the sata cable back in the drive Im still not banned   I didnt think it would be an issue but theres no harm in being as safe as you can.