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[telo{+}]

Go back and read what manh wrote.

[apw100]

Regardless of future advances in firmware, MS has already been successful with their bans. How? They scared the piss out of alot of people!!!!  I imagine that that alone will deter alot of people from modding their box.

[TIME2PLAYDAGAME]

QUOTE(telo{+} @ May 29 2007, 07:59 PM)

Go back and read what manh wrote.

Im too tired to read it all, plus i was speaking in general. *yawn*  

[manh]

What I was trying to get at from my previous post was, "will this new iXTREME firmware prevent M$ from using data from our past firmware's behaviour and MAYBE avoid us from being banned from the point of the iXTREME firmware forward" or "will our previous firmware's behaviour still in effective after the new iXTREME have been applied and we are going to see the banhammer"

If senario 2 is in effect then there is no point for us to upgrade to the new firmware.

Also, a question someone should ask C4eva when they get a chance to catch him on IRC (I don't go on there) is "Are the testers using brand new systems without any prior firmware mod to test the iXTREME firmware on LIVE, or are the systems they are using to test have been on LIVE with a modded firmware before."

[manh]

Yes everybody, the firmware is available in multiple locations.

[PacinoAllstars]

QUOTE(manh @ May 30 2007, 05:16 AM)

What I was trying to get at from my previous post was, "will this new iXTREME firmware prevent M$ from using data from our past firmware's behaviour and MAYBE avoid us from being banned from the point of the iXTREME firmware forward" or "will our previous firmware's behaviour still in effective after the new iXTREME have been applied and we are going to see the banhammer"

If senario 2 is in effect then there is no point for us to upgrade to the new firmware.

Also, a question someone should ask C4eva when they get a chance to catch him on IRC (I don't go on there) is "Are the testers using brand new systems without any prior firmware mod to test the iXTREME firmware on LIVE, or are the systems they are using to test have been on LIVE with a modded firmware before."

I suppose testing means they test with different set ups. So that would include brand new boxes and boxes that survived the first wave of banning.

[dareios21]

i d like to ask something about that "unplug sata cord problem"

is there a problem if i try to mod an unbanned console by removing the sata cord way? is this logged somewhere on the console? and maybe has to do with xbl ban?

[solo81]

im still not banned yet, ive made sure that all games r ss patch and the rest. i am however unable to upgrade to ixtreme with vista installed for some reason, i have been able to flash no probs with xp but now i got vista i get an error message saying error no memory when i go into NTFS boot disc. any1 else had similar issue with vista.

[wcrov]

Please don't forget the POOR owners of the Hitachi's

[xnoelahg]

QUOTE(MetalHead06 @ May 30 2007, 03:38 AM)

I have two questions:

1) This question is for Hitachi drives 78 and 79. If you can't use the xbox itself to power the DVD drive, how can I get the drive into Mode B? If I use a connectivity kit, those don't work for the 78 and 79 to get into mode b, and even I use it JUST to power it, and use slax, won't it go out of Mode B once I restart my computer from slax to windows?

2) Will there be a way to test if an images is properly patched with everything it needs, on the PC before burning it to a disc?

Thanks.

 Wow, you're the FIRST to ask that ever, ever.

1) C4E stated that 78/79 drives will have to be flashed via the old method (external flash with a programmer)

2) xDVDMulleter7 does that.

[ghettoc401]

QUOTE(xnoelahg @ May 31 2007, 03:06 PM)

Wow, you're the FIRST to ask that ever, ever.

1) C4E stated that 78/79 drives will have to be flashed via the old method (external flash with a programmer)

2) xDVDMulleter7 does that.

Not really, if he is using an external power supply for his drive (not using his pc) then restarting his computer wont mess up mode b. Whether using the xbox to power the drive or the connectivity kit, restarting the computer while a drive is in mode b wont affect it.
Also, you dont have to use an external flash. You can use a firmware toolbox to flash those drives.

[sletje]

I have been following this whole banning/iXtreme firmware thing in the background for a while now, and one question remains: if you are unsure if you are banned as of this moment (you disconnected the ethernet cable, never signed in to Live since before the spring update etc), would there be an advantage in using iXtreme 1.0 over Xtreme 5.3 when you test your bannedness with an original?

So in short: is there a difference between the two in how secure you are when you want to test if you've been banned in the meanwhile? This is merely a matter of laziness and not having to flash to 1.0 and back, if you were banned in the meantime but didn't know it. As far as I have been able to read in the countless threads over the weeks up to now, it doesn't seem to matter as long as you use an original? Or does iX 1.0 have other features I may have overlooked that differentiate it from X5.3a etc in that it makes it more secure to test your banned-ness with a retail disc? I understand that banned=banned and all that, just want to check with the minimum of risk if I need to go for iXtreme before checking my bannedness, or if it doesn't really matter as long as you use a retail disc which reports the correct timing values etc anyway. Even if it's already taken me more time to find the answer to this, than it would take to just flash the damn thing and then try it online..

[Wilhelmm]

QUOTE(sletje @ May 31 2007, 07:27 PM)

I have been following this whole banning/iXtreme firmware thing in the background for a while now, and one question remains: if you are unsure if you are banned as of this moment (you disconnected the ethernet cable, never signed in to Live since before the spring update etc), would there be an advantage in using iXtreme 1.0 over Xtreme 5.3 when you test your bannedness with an original?

So in short: is there a difference between the two in how secure you are when you want to test if you've been banned in the meanwhile? This is merely a matter of laziness and not having to flash to 1.0 and back, if you were banned in the meantime but didn't know it. As far as I have been able to read in the countless threads over the weeks up to now, it doesn't seem to matter as long as you use an original? Or does iX 1.0 have other features I may have overlooked that differentiate it from X5.3a etc in that it makes it more secure to test your banned-ness with a retail disc? I understand that banned=banned and all that, just want to check with the minimum of risk if I need to go for iXtreme before checking my bannedness, or if it doesn't really matter as long as you use a retail disc which reports the correct timing values etc anyway. Even if it's already taken me more time to find the answer to this, than it would take to just flash the damn thing and then try it online..

I understood that If you want to continue to play backup games use ixtreme 1.0...  why? because this frmware just accepts backups same as orginals.. if you have sure that all your backups are "good" there is no difference from the prevous firmware.

About the issue of people dsconnected since the ban start ,  following the most acceptable theorie there is no dfference log in with 5.3C or iX 1.0 . Because the logs of checks that result in ban are already sent to m$ so the new firmware just MAKE SURE that your backups are fine and arent producing logs that can ban you.. so people that are afraid have 2 option in my opinion:

1 - Enter in live and see if you get banned or not.. if not use iX 1.0 to prevent bad backups.

2 - Wait for more explanations and solutions......
 

[PacinoAllstars]

QUOTE(Wilhelmm @ Jun 1 2007, 12:42 AM)

I understood that If you want to continue to play backup games use ixtreme 1.0...  why? because this frmware just accepts backups same as orginals.. if you have sure that all your backups are "good" there is no difference from the prevous firmware.

About the issue of people dsconnected since the ban start ,  following the most acceptable theorie there is no dfference log in with 5.3C or iX 1.0 . Because the logs of checks that result in ban are already sent to m$ so the new firmware just MAKE SURE that your backups are fine and arent producing logs that can ban you.. so people that are afraid have 2 option in my opinion:

1 - Enter in live and see if you get banned or not.. if not use iX 1.0 to prevent bad backups.

2 - Wait for more explanations and solutions......

That is not the only difference. It also has accurate timings.

[cartervt2k]

Will Schtrom or XBC stealth check detect bad Hitachi SS extracts or will only the iXtreme firmware tell you what's good and what isn't?